What do I need to setup with a Leased Line wires only?

See previous thread (if it matters):

https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4736968-ge...

So the next question is, what do I need to set up when I get the leased line installed and RJ45 into my ER605 Omada router?

What was wrong with the previous thread….? You have your answers in there, no!?

Anyway for brevity, from a techical perspective:
1. Make sure you will be provisioned on the ADVAs RJ45 interface as your router doesn’t have an SFP port to my knowledge.

2. Make sure you get any VLAN setup details.

3. Get your IPv4 setup details.

From a contractual perspective, as said look over your contract T&Cs very carefully. What may seem like a good deal now might not be in Year 3 with two intervening in-contract CPI+ price increases baked in.

Sign in haste and repent in leisure, as my former colleague used to say.

Good luck.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

What was wrong with the previous thread….? You have your answers in there, no!?

Anyway for brevity, from a techical perspective:
1. Make sure you will be provisioned on the ADVAs RJ45 interface as your router doesn’t have an SFP port to my knowledge.

2. Make sure you get any VLAN setup details.

3. Get your IPv4 setup details.

From a contractual perspective, as said look over your contract T&Cs very carefully. What may seem like a good deal now might not be in Year 3 with two intervening in-contract CPI+ price increases baked in.

Sign in haste and repent in leisure, as my former colleague used to say.

Good luck.

Do I need a firewall of some sort? Or just plug in the RJ45 in my router, configure it and off I go?

My guess would be, yes, you do need a firewall

In reply to a post by RiDER07:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

What was wrong with the previous thread….? You have your answers in there, no!?

Anyway for brevity, from a techical perspective:
1. Make sure you will be provisioned on the ADVAs RJ45 interface as your router doesn’t have an SFP port to my knowledge.

2. Make sure you get any VLAN setup details.

3. Get your IPv4 setup details.

From a contractual perspective, as said look over your contract T&Cs very carefully. What may seem like a good deal now might not be in Year 3 with two intervening in-contract CPI+ price increases baked in.

Sign in haste and repent in leisure, as my former colleague used to say.

Good luck.

Do I need a firewall of some sort? Or just plug in the RJ45 in my router, configure it and off I go?

Thought your box already had a SPI firewall in place?

https://static.tp-link.com/upload/product-overview/2...

If not what are you using at the moment for these duties?

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

In reply to a post by RiDER07:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

What was wrong with the previous thread….? You have your answers in there, no!?

Anyway for brevity, from a techical perspective:
1. Make sure you will be provisioned on the ADVAs RJ45 interface as your router doesn’t have an SFP port to my knowledge.

2. Make sure you get any VLAN setup details.

3. Get your IPv4 setup details.

From a contractual perspective, as said look over your contract T&Cs very carefully. What may seem like a good deal now might not be in Year 3 with two intervening in-contract CPI+ price increases baked in.

Sign in haste and repent in leisure, as my former colleague used to say.

Good luck.

Do I need a firewall of some sort? Or just plug in the RJ45 in my router, configure it and off I go?

Thought your box already had a SPI firewall in place?

https://static.tp-link.com/upload/product-overview/2...

If not what are you using at the moment for these duties?

https://i.imgur.com/WUvhm9Z.png

OK...so you have a firewall...

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

OK...so you have a firewall...

Didin't know until now, oups sorry.

Edited by RiDER07 (Mon 05-Jun-23 14:53:00)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

OK...so you have a firewall...

They provide /31 subnet mask. Do you think it's enough? They said for one off fee of £100 they will provide me with /29 instead.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

What was wrong with the previous thread….? You have your answers in there, no!?

We all know this is going to be heavily milked and there are now two threads running in parallel about the same topic.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

What was wrong with the previous thread….? You have your answers in there, no!?

We all know this is going to be heavily milked and there are now two threads running in parallel about the same topic.

I'm not going to lie: the first thread looks a lot like someone playing ignorant. I can't say I understand the motivations but it just doesn't read right. Lots of switches and APs reads like an enormous property with a wireless set up that'd have been done by professionals so why wouldn't they be handling this, too? Not that professionals would use 'gigabit' switches all over the place, that'd be unwise.

I could be totally wrong in which case I apologise to all involved but given how a 'usual suspect' keeps popping in here talking about leased lines I think there's some immediate cynicism that greets any thread a newbie starts.

Just where we are as a forum I guess due to previous experience.

In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:

I'm not going to lie: the first thread looks a lot like someone playing ignorant. I can't say I understand the motivations but it just doesn't read right. Lots of switches and APs reads like an enormous property with a wireless set up that'd have been done by professionals so why wouldn't they be handling this, too? Not that professionals would use 'gigabit' switches all over the place, that'd be unwise.

I could be totally wrong in which case I apologise to all involved but given how a 'usual suspect' keeps popping in here talking about leased lines I think there's some immediate cynicism that greets any thread a newbie starts.

Just where we are as a forum I guess due to previous experience.

You make some good points as normal, when we have the OP admitting they don't know if their router has a firewall or not it does beg the question how the OP has managed to get their home network setup to this point.

We may be wrong but the 'usual suspect' does seem to have a playbook virtually identical to what the OP is saying, it does make you very suspicious. Would be good to see some evidence that the OP is not wasting everyone's time.

In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

What was wrong with the previous thread….? You have your answers in there, no!?

We all know this is going to be heavily milked and there are now two threads running in parallel about the same topic.

I'm not going to lie: the first thread looks a lot like someone playing ignorant. I can't say I understand the motivations but it just doesn't read right. Lots of switches and APs reads like an enormous property with a wireless set up that'd have been done by professionals so why wouldn't they be handling this, too? Not that professionals would use 'gigabit' switches all over the place, that'd be unwise.

I could be totally wrong in which case I apologise to all involved but given how a 'usual suspect' keeps popping in here talking about leased lines I think there's some immediate cynicism that greets any thread a newbie starts.

Just where we are as a forum I guess due to previous experience.

Definitely not playing ignorant. I know some stuff and I don't know other stuff.

It's a 3 bedroom house which I wired with ethernet behind walls everywhere basically to future proof it. I went with TP Link equipment as it was affordable price for handling basic stuff around the house.

I set up everything, router, switches, labelling of cables, some basic networking stuff. (I missed out on the firewall, but it was set up by default).

I can't get more than 30Mbps internet which is why I was looking into leased lines and after googling I found this forum which I thought I could maybe ask for some help as the leased are really expensive and you are stuck for minimum of 3 years.

I'm not a networking guy so I didn't know about firewall, but I do know how to set up DHCP, Subnet mask, etc, which I've done for my house.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:

I'm not going to lie: the first thread looks a lot like someone playing ignorant. I can't say I understand the motivations but it just doesn't read right. Lots of switches and APs reads like an enormous property with a wireless set up that'd have been done by professionals so why wouldn't they be handling this, too? Not that professionals would use 'gigabit' switches all over the place, that'd be unwise.

I could be totally wrong in which case I apologise to all involved but given how a 'usual suspect' keeps popping in here talking about leased lines I think there's some immediate cynicism that greets any thread a newbie starts.

Just where we are as a forum I guess due to previous experience.

You make some good points as normal, when we have the OP admitting they don't know if their router has a firewall or not it does beg the question how the OP has managed to get their home network setup to this point.

We may be wrong but the 'usual suspect' does seem to have a playbook virtually identical to what the OP is saying, it does make you very suspicious. Would be good to see some evidence that the OP is not wasting everyone's time.

I'm not trying to waste everyone's time. I'm genuinely after some real advices as leased lines are very expensive and you are stuck for at least 3 years.

What proof would you like ?

In reply to a post by RiDER07:

What proof would you like ?

To be totally honest I'm not really sure what I would need to see to be able to consider you genuine so I am sorry about that sadly its because I've lost count on the amount of times we have seen a clown come on here each time using a new username bragging about ordering a leased line and asking about how to set it up. Hopefully you can go through all the answers you have had in your 2 threads to date and work out what else you need so we can all move on as we don't need further threads discussing the same points.

Edited by deleted (Tue 06-Jun-23 12:50:11)

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by RiDER07:

What proof would you like ?

To be total honest I'm not really sure what I would need to see to be able to consider you genuine so I am sorry about that sadly its because I've lost count on the amount of times we have seen a clown come on here each time using a new username bragging about ordering a leased line and asking about how to set it up. Hopefully you can go through all the answers you have had in your 2 threads to date and work out what else you need so we can all move on as we don't need further threads discussing the same points.

I did, and thank you for your input.

"I'm not going to lie:"

I always find this a strange statement. I don't think you would lie normally?

In reply to a post by broadband66:

"I'm not going to lie:"

I always find this a strange statement. I don't think you would lie normally?

People do tell little white lies to be polite. That statement indicates honesty, potentially to the point of brutality, is coming.

I'm British. I'm generally very polite and will tell porkies to preserve people's feelings at times.

In reply to a post by RiDER07:

I can't get more than 30Mbps internet which is why I was looking into leased lines and after googling I found this forum which I thought I could maybe ask for some help as the leased are really expensive and you are stuck for minimum of 3 years.

Have you checked if you're in scope for a full fibre build from one of the many folks building them at the moment?

In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:

In reply to a post by RiDER07:

I can't get more than 30Mbps internet which is why I was looking into leased lines and after googling I found this forum which I thought I could maybe ask for some help as the leased are really expensive and you are stuck for minimum of 3 years.

Have you checked if you're in scope for a full fibre build from one of the many folks building them at the moment?

OpenReach announeed I will have FTTP within 12 months from May 2022, we are now June 2023, they've taken my location out of their plan and is now planned for 2026. What websites do you use to check if any full fibre is being rolled out?

Have a look at https://bidb.uk to see if anyone is building in your area. Openreach is only one network provider, there are others such as CityFibre, the new wholesale network half owned by Virgin Media, and the smaller alternate providers such as the one in my town (Toob) whom build and operate their own network for their own ISP.

Openreach checker will only report Openreach.

Edited by jchamier (Tue 06-Jun-23 20:01:21)

"I'm generally very polite and will tell porkies to preserve people's feelings at times. "

That could be a lie!