Community Fibre gbps now CGNAT

I was ecsatic to find CF now live in my street, no more PPPoE limiting my router choice, symmetrical service and for less money than my Zen service.

I'd spent time researching when they started putting infrastructure in around my area and was happy to find the 1gbps service avoids cgnat.

Service has gone live and I see the dreaded 100. IP on my WAN interface. Turns out they changed the terms a few days ago to specify CGNAT for 1gbps services.

I don't need 3gbps, nor can I really make use of it with the equipment I have and it seems a bit silly to pay double for a dynamic IP.

Figured it was worth a post warning other potential subscribers

This change happened around the end of June according to this on ispreview and has been mentioned in this forum.

In reply to a post by mikehiow:

Turns out they changed the terms a few days ago to specify CGNAT for 1gbps services.

Its going to be the normal situation for pretty much all the alt-nets given the global lack of IPv4.

Is there anything specific that you need a public IP for? It can probably be worked around.

In reply to a post by jpm:

Is there anything specific that you need a public IP for? It can probably be worked around.

Yes, I have a few home automation and security applications that require a routable IP. I can work around it, but it’s not ideal.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Its going to be the normal situation for pretty much all the alt-nets given the global lack of IPv4.

I wouldn’t mind if ipv6 support was better. Still many isps that don’t support it and sites that aren’t accessible via v6.

I also seem to be seeing a bit of packet loss over ipv6 which is frustrating

If only there were another IP protocol with a bigger address space we could use!

In reply to a post by bsdnazz:

If only there were another IP protocol with a bigger address space we could use!

That had universal adoption... ! (I'm with Virgin Media whom have been muttering but done nothing about v6 for over 10 years)

I know that Hyperoptic is the same however they charge you £5.00 for a IPv4 Static IP - Do you know if that is the same with Community Fibre also?

CGNAT is also common on mobile networks like EE who totally blocked all incoming ports and share the same public IP with 300 people or something like that number.

I feel sorry for the people who are not tech minded and before signing up, Have a option to say "do you own a game console, IP Camera system e,g NVR/DVR, VPN) if yes give them a Static IP and leave the ones who just browse and watch netflix a CGNAT IP.

Edited by francisuk25 (Sat 19-Aug-23 18:04:48)

In reply to a post by francisuk25:

Do you know if that is the same with Community Fibre also?

CommunityFibre’s help page says Static IP available to business customers.
https://help.communityfibre.co.uk/troubleshooting/wi...

Toob (rolling out in Hampshire and Surrey) charge £8/month for a static IPv4, but also have IPv6 support.

https://noone.co.uk/
https://www.leetline.co.uk/

You get a free static IP address with above.