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Standard User Spud2003
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 11-Oct-23 23:10:08
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Three fibre networks being laid in my street ...


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So in my street there's Jurassic fibre, Nexfibre is being laid today and Openreach is planned - so I can choose between three fibre networks. I also have great 5G reception. I've gone from FTTC to four superfast options. It's been like waiting for a bus, nothing happens for years then they all turn up at once, how they all expect to make money I'm not sure. tongue
Standard User HughA
(learned) Thu 12-Oct-23 09:38:28
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Similar situation for me. At the start of the year I only had Virgin Media or 2Mbps ADSL. Then Lit Fibre appeared, Openreach have just installed a CBT on the pole outside my house and a massive 5G mast has appeared at the end of the road! Its nice that there is competition at last but it does seem overkill!
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Thu 12-Oct-23 10:04:06
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I’ve had decent FTTC for about 11 years but I’m really looking for something faster.

Openreach contractors have put a CBT on my pole and I’m waiting on it being wired up.

Nexfibre are installing in the town but no where seems to have gone live yet, including the bits that were installed 2 months ago. They will get to my street in late november.

I just need someone to get here so I can avoid overpaying Plusnet. Out of contract pricing is ridiculous.

Having lived with about 60Mbit for ages my head keeps saying what it Nexfibre bring out a 2Gbit option, will I be unhappy if I’ve gone with openreach? I’ll never be content wink

Kris


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Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 12-Oct-23 18:37:02
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Re: Three fibre networks being laid in my street ...


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In reply to a post by Spud2003:
So in my street there's Jurassic fibre, Nexfibre is being laid today and Openreach is planned - so I can choose between three fibre networks. I also have great 5G reception. I've gone from FTTC to four superfast options. It's been like waiting for a bus, nothing happens for years then they all turn up at once, how they all expect to make money I'm not sure. tongue
Similar here (Gigaclear and Swish) although there are no signs of openreach yet which surprises me. I thought they'd be starting work by now. Still it's all rather wasteful. We don't need three sets of fibre. One set shared by everyone would be cheaper and less disruptive.

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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK

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Standard User pyarwood
(newbie) Thu 12-Oct-23 22:47:54
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We got Openreach 5 months ago since then 2 other providers are installing chambers for fibre splitters was weird though because city fibre installed dark fibre 2 years ago and never did anything with it
I am happy with my 1 gig openreach wholesale connection at £40 a month
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 13-Oct-23 19:30:18
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Re: Three fibre networks being laid in my street ...


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One set shared by everyone would be cheaper and less disruptive.

One national (likely state owned) provider? One set of products, with gigabit download and 100 Mbps upload? Thats what you get from the one network provider that thinks they are state owned. Competition has been needed to shake up the market, and hopefully remove the former state owned telco's assumption they will get all the business. The competition is already offering gigabit download and upload, and in some cities offering even faster speeds.

The 1980s governments noticed that one = no competition.

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Standard User amiga_dude
(member) Sat 14-Oct-23 10:06:36
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One national (likely state owned) provider? One set of products, with gigabit download and 100 Mbps upload? Thats what you get from the one network provider that thinks they are state owned.


This what think going to happen:-
BT (Business) is going to start sell symmetrical version of fibre internet (1Gb Download/1Gb Upload)
EE (Consumer) is going to keep on sell asymmetrical version of fibre internet (1Gb Download/100Mb Upload)

They also make out some SLA which rather pointless because fibre dosn't have much down time. So for SLA and being symmetrical charge an extra 50% more for something which dosn't cost anything near that much more.

SLA uselessly pointless because 99% of the time they are covered under a best effort, which is SLA form of get of jail free card. They always have wiggle out if want to, all they have to say is "It was there best effort".
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 14-Oct-23 10:19:29
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BT (Business) is going to start sell symmetrical version of fibre internet (1Gb Download/1Gb Upload)
EE (Consumer) is going to keep on sell asymmetrical version of fibre internet (1Gb Download/100Mb Upload)

Only possible if the network provider they use supports it. I don't see BT (Business) using Cityfibre or nexfibre, unless you are talking about leased lines which is a very different price and uses different infrastructure.

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Standard User binary
(committed) Sat 14-Oct-23 10:58:50
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I was looking at a CityFibre installation on a street the other day, which utilised a mixture of their own new poles and Openreach poles (through PIA). The street also has Virgin Media, but that's delivered underground.

It made me wonder whether there's anywhere that might have three seperate networks delivered overhead, using their own pole infrastructure? I imagine the answer is no as it'd be a mess and people would legitimately kick up a fuss!

I also wondered if there's any industry protocol for avoiding overhead line 'clashes' - as there were some CityFibre lines (from their own poles) that crossed Openreach lines, albeit at slightly different heights, each from their own poles in the street. One can also imagine the possibility for tangles and difficulties when one operator is installing new lines, without disturbing the lines from the other operator.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 14-Oct-23 13:01:07
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It made me wonder whether there's anywhere that might have three seperate networks delivered overhead

I know of poles in Crowthorne (Berkshire) which have OR copper, OR FTTP, City Fibre FTTP, and Swish (or some other altnet) up the stick … there another buried network too.
The poles would be unclimbable to my mind as there’s no reasonable spot to put your work position belt. On top of it all looking very messy.

Progress.

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