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Standard User SGS2023
(newbie) Tue 21-Nov-23 18:32:10
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VIOP with 1Mb broadband


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Hi All - quick question - I live in a rural location where my business runs from. BT advised today that when the PSTN network is switched off my current broadband of 1MB will not be sufficient for VOIP calls. There is no option for fibre of any sort due to my location. I can get a reasonable Vodafone mobile signal so do I get a 4G router and put a Vodafone unlimited data SIM in it. How do I connect a digital phone to it? Thankks for any advice.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Nov-23 00:11:04
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When you say 1MB - do you actually mean 1mbit ? Anyways i'm taking it as 1Mbit, which would be fine but your upload is likely to be 0.1mbits which then wouldn't be so fine for voip

For voip you would either need a "softphone" for iphone or android, or an ata such as a grandstream HT80x or a voip landline phone such a yearlink (spellling) or a gigaset n300 or n510 and some additional phones.

Oh and a service provider ..
Standard User john_32
(regular) Wed 22-Nov-23 07:42:34
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With a good mobile signal would it be an option to use that network rather than VOIP?

e.g. https://www.aa.net.uk/voice-and-mobile/sip2sim/


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Standard User SGS2023
(newbie) Wed 22-Nov-23 10:18:41
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Thanks - I'm open to any ideas as to how to run the business line with no broadband - yes it is 1Mb! - mobile options look likely - just interfacing a phone with the mobile broadband without it being too costly.
Standard User SGS2023
(newbie) Wed 22-Nov-23 10:20:04
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Thanks for reply - I will look at using a mobile signal - how would I link a desk phone to the mobile device - they do not have ports or can it be done via Wi-Fi?
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Nov-23 10:25:06
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Obviously you could just use a voice SIM directly in a mobile phone - this will likely be the most reliable and cheapest way to do it, with unlimited calls for <£5 per month. I think if you hunt around you can find desk phones with a SIM too.

But if you want to keep your existing landline number, you'll need to find a service provider who'll forward it to your mobile number (and pay per minute). In that case, VOIP becomes more attractive, as long as the data network connection you get is good enough.

For a client device, I'd start with a softphone like Acrobits Softphone (or Groundwire if you want additional features like 3-way calling). It costs a few quid but has no ongoing charges. If you want additional phones you can look at a DECT SIP base station, or ethernet-attached desk SIP phones (these will likely be more reliable than an ATA which connects existing analogue phones)

When choosing a VOIP provider, beware that some of them only let you register a single handset, and if you want multiple handsets active, they charge them as if they were separate "lines". But other providers let you register multiple handsets with the same credentials. They'll all ring simultaneously on an incoming call, and any one can pick it up.
Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(committed) Wed 22-Nov-23 11:06:36
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In reply to a post by SGS2023:
Hi All - quick question - I live in a rural location where my business runs from. BT advised today that when the PSTN network is switched off my current broadband of 1MB will not be sufficient for VOIP calls. There is no option for fibre of any sort due to my location. I can get a reasonable Vodafone mobile signal so do I get a 4G router and put a Vodafone unlimited data SIM in it. How do I connect a digital phone to it? Thankks for any advice.


Hi There,
Quick question how many of you are in the business and need access to the phone?

Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
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Standard User Dassa
(learned) Wed 22-Nov-23 11:21:13
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Hi,
In reply to a post by SGS2023:
Hi All - quick question - I live in a rural location where my business runs from. BT advised today that when the PSTN network is switched off my current broadband of 1MB will not be sufficient for VOIP calls. There is no option for fibre of any sort due to my location. I can get a reasonable Vodafone mobile signal so do I get a 4G router and put a Vodafone unlimited data SIM in it. How do I connect a digital phone to it? Thankks for any advice.

Are BT actually saying that they are going to withdraw your phone service with no alternative? If so then I think you might be one of the first people in the country that that has happened to. Is this a formal statement in writing by BT or just something that a call centre operative might have mis-explained to you?

Have BT offered an alternative means of making voice calls or have they just said that they are going to forcibly cancel or modify your contract sometime in the next two years?

If you have a formal statement from BT and there is no other means of connection being offered then my suggestion is to complain to the BT Chairman's office and if no luck there then to consider talking to your MP and/or involving the press. Withdrawing PSTN service when there is no alternative is a contentious issue and likely to be newsworthy.

For what it is worth, if there is the possibility of the provision of a second copper pair to your premises (the cable might already carry two pairs) then I suspect BT will be able to offer you continuation of an analogue phone line alongside a separate ADSL line until your local exchange closes (which would potentially be ~2030). The second pair is necessary as that analogue product, which is not yet on sale and will only have limited availability when it is (see https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/11/openre... ), doesn't permit ADSL over the top so you'd need separate pairs for voice and data to replicate what you currently have.

Alternatively it might be possible to improve the ADSL performance to a point where it could support VOIP - is that low data rate purely down to a very long line length?
Standard User danielhyde
(committed) Wed 22-Nov-23 11:39:11
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Do you currently use the 1Mb broadband as your main internet access?
Have you thought about something like Starlink?

Thanks Dan
Standard User SGS2023
(newbie) Wed 22-Nov-23 11:44:24
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There are 3 of us - but only 1 or 2 use the phone
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