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Standard User jokingjovial
(newbie) Thu 15-Feb-24 09:46:15
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Cityfibre and Virgin at the house boundary


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In Milton Keynes they're installing a second FTTP line to the house boundary. So as well as Cityfibre running at 1gb, a second virgin/O2 line is being installed. Apologies for being thick but why don't virgin use the existing infrastructure installed by Cityfibre for their services, in a similar way, Vodafone and octaplus do. Especially when there was talk of virgin buying Cityfibre a while back.
Standard User AndyPandy
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 15-Feb-24 09:57:49
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Re: Cityfibre and Virgin at the house boundary


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Virgin have chosen to install their own fibre. They could have used Cityfibre as a partner (as Zen does), but simply chose not to. There would have been an ongoing cost to do so.

If they were to buy Cityfibre, then they own their infrastructure and could use it as they please.


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Standard User haydnwalker
(regular) Thu 15-Feb-24 13:11:12
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Re: Cityfibre and Virgin at the house boundary


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Same has happened around Doncaster also.

However Virgin already had presence and CityFibre have now installed FTTP.

Virgin and CityFibre are rivals, and its unlikley they will want to share infrastructure. Virgin were on about creating a Wholesale network (the same as BT Openreach and CityFibre) so other ISPs could access their network, though not sure if thats still happening (read it on ISP Review a while back).

Its all about competition really, if Virgin can steal customers away from CityFibre (I personally cant see how that will happen given the costs VM charges after initial contracts) they will try and do so.


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Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Thu 15-Feb-24 21:12:47
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Re: Cityfibre and Virgin at the house boundary


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Cityfibre are a wholesale provider, so allow ISPs to provide a a service via the cityfibre network.

They do not allow other providers to use their ducts and poles to install their own physical network - only openreach allow infrastructure to be shared to my knowledge.

VM have their own existing network and are the anchor tennant on the ‘Nexfibre’ network which is now being delployed. Others will be able to use this Nexfibre network if they wish but in a similar way as cityfibre so today.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Feb-24 13:42:15
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In reply to a post by Kr1s69:
VM have their own existing network and are the anchor tennant on the ‘Nexfibre’ network which is now being delployed. Others will be able to use this Nexfibre network if they wish but in a similar way as cityfibre so today.
Although areas with Virgin Media already (either Coax, or RFoG) are unlikely to see nexfibre.

In theory by 2030 there will be three wholesale operations supporting various ISPs, at worst a home could have three ONTs:
* Openreach FTTP
* Cityfibre FTTP
* Nexfibre FTTP

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