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Standard User Xuse
(member) Fri 05-Apr-24 13:39:21
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Best practices in running ethernet in regards to FTTP?


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I'm really not sure how to do this, as in the correct way. I will be paying for someone to do this for me, but I just want to make sure it's done in the right way (so I don't need to have anyone back in doing work at a later date)

https://i.imgur.com/dW31wE9.png

Horrible paint 'skills' aside. Overall layout of house, ont etc.

Bed1, and Bed2 need to have ethernet, Bed3 is fine on wifi. One guy I spoke to suggested running armored cable outside the house up to bed1, but do you run that straight from the ont or?

Another thing I was considering doing was trying to get the ONT moved to bed1? but not sure if ISP/openreach do that kind of thing. Wifi is fine in livingroom.

Basically just need to know the best way to do this so I can pay to have it done right. One of my concerns would be the link being split. (ie bed1 and bed2 sharing same port on the router)

Sorry, I'm rather lost when it comes to networking and would appreciate any help. Right now I have 2 20m cat6 cables running from Livingroom all the way upstairs. I'm sure you can imagine how messy that is. I feel like I'm missing a very obvious solution.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Edited by Xuse (Fri 05-Apr-24 13:39:48)

Standard User threelegs
(committed) Fri 05-Apr-24 14:19:56
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Re: Best practices in running ethernet in regards to FTTP?


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having the ONT in bed1 or 2 would be the better solution. I dont see why OR wouldnt put it there. the fibre would be spliced at ground level then run up the wall into either bed 1 or 2. Then its simply a matter of a small hole in the wall between both beds to run a network cable from the router to that room and the romm with the ONT and the router can plug straight in to the router. your OR supplied hub will have four sockets for devices

also having the router in the bedroom means that it is directly above the living room so good coverage

Edited by threelegs (Fri 05-Apr-24 14:21:02)

Standard User timandhaylea
(learned) Fri 05-Apr-24 16:52:56
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OR generally won't install the ONT at height, so you are likely stuck with it in the living room.

You can’t split an ethernet cable and have two connections plugged in the same port. All the cables have to come back to the router or network switch.

Presuming that you can’t drop any cables in the wall cavity, then running the cable(s) outside, either surface mounted or (my preference) in 20mm conduit. You can then either run two cables from the living room to each of the bedrooms, or one cable to the loft, put mini network switch in the loft and drop cables down into the two bedrooms.

There are of course other considerations (router location, additional WiFi points, etc.)., but you should ensure all the cables are terminated to wall sockets, not RJ45 plugs.


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Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Fri 05-Apr-24 17:08:48
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Someones going to be upset when they try to get into Bed1.
Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 05-Apr-24 17:23:14
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Do not put the ONT in a bedroom, the lights will drive you mad. Stick the ONT behind the TV and then do a couple of external Cat6 runs to the two bedrooms, you've probably got a downpipe you can hide it behind. No need to go with armoured if you aren't burying it. Depending on how your house is built you might be able to go through the wall of bedroom 1 and run cable in the floor to bedroom 2 rather than clipping externally, but it depends how easy it is to get the floor up.

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Apr-24 17:26:06
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Re: Best practices in running ethernet in regards to FTTP?


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Do you have any existing kit ?

what i would do is this.

ont to living room, ethernet into router. Buy a single mesh unit and put that in the hall of the first floor with an ethernet back-haul to the router. that go up the side of the house in a conduit into the loft space and then down a side of one of the walls in the hallway and into that mesh unit.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Apr-24 17:28:04
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yep or three cables - one to each room via the loft!
Standard User cjn
(regular) Fri 05-Apr-24 17:44:17
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Don't forget power points. Ideally the ONT should be close enough to a socket not to need an extension lead. Plus, the router needs a second socket.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 05-Apr-24 18:02:25
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Good point, something which alot of poeple forget about
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 05-Apr-24 18:08:41
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Why armoured - that really is overkill and a pain to run and connect. External grade - yes but not SWA. And is Cat6 really needed? Cat5e will be sufficient for Gbit.


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