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Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sat 06-Apr-24 12:22:41
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SFP/RG45 Adaptor


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Not sure if this works, I think it will, but I'm sure those in the know will advise me otherwise

I am thinking of buying a Draytek 3912 which has a 10G SFP port

Would I be correct in thinking that I can take a CAT6 cable from the ONT and plug this into a SFP/RJ45 adaptor ?

Is there specific SFP/RJ45 adaptor that I will need ?
I have found this one here, which looks to be correct

https://www.google.com/search?q=DT-SFP-10G-T&sourcei...

Any help appreciated

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 06-Apr-24 13:13:09
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Yes, it should be fine. Note: if teh port is 10Gbit it will be SFP+


What I don't like are the prices in your search! I use Ubiquiti and even their "expensive" equivalent is about £50-60. There are quite a few third party adapters around and I use them in my UI eqiupment to convert to Fibre. You may find someone who has successfully used a third party one on Draytek.

I also ask if you actually need 10G - what service do you have? And does the ONT support 10G too?


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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 06-Apr-24 13:43:46
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Re: SFP/RG45 Adaptor


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I'm completely confused as what you are trying to do here,

Firstly the draytek 3912 is a very expensive piece of networking equipment ...... i say that because it seems to be overpriced.

Secondly and more importantly, if you are staying on sky's fttp - at the most a 2.5gbit connection.

Thirdly why waste a 10gbe sfp+ port when theres 1gbe ports on the switch.

What is your reasoning to get this switch, because atm i can't see the need


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Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sat 06-Apr-24 14:01:59
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Re: SFP/RG45 Adaptor


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I also ask if you actually need 10G - what service do you have? And does the ONT support 10G too?


No I don't need 10G, but that's what the router has
I am having the 1.8Gb service installed, so the ONT will only support up to 2.5Gb

I am assuming the SFP will adapt to to whatever the throughput is

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Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sat 06-Apr-24 14:10:41
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I'm completely confused as what you are trying to do here


What I am attempting to do is use one of the SFP ports to free up one of the 2.5G ports

Firstly the draytek 3912 is a very expensive piece of networking equipment ...... i say that because it seems to be overpriced


Maybe is overpriced, but there is not much to compare it with and I have always used Draytek
If you know of a comparable one, then I am open to ideas ( Fan less )

Thirdly why waste a 10gbe sfp+ port when there's 1gbe ports on the switch


Not staying on Sky, moving to a 1.8G service

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Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 06-Apr-24 14:23:03
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The module Draytek list as being compatible with that router, and able to run at 2.5Gb, is this one

https://www.draytek.com/products/dam-ex10-30m
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 06-Apr-24 14:34:05
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In reply to a post by Colinh58:
I'm completely confused as what you are trying to do here


What I am attempting to do is use one of the SFP ports to free up one of the 2.5G ports

Firstly the draytek 3912 is a very expensive piece of networking equipment ...... i say that because it seems to be overpriced


Maybe is overpriced, but there is not much to compare it with and I have always used Draytek
If you know of a comparable one, then I am open to ideas ( Fan less )

Thirdly why waste a 10gbe sfp+ port when there's 1gbe ports on the switch


Not staying on Sky, moving to a 1.8G service


have you actually brought the draytek yet?

What features do you need ? I do understand that once you are in the Draytek club you kinda don't want to leave which is fair enough but from what you are saying the 3912 if not already brought may from the port issue alone be not suiteable.

If you have brought the said unit, and need further 2.5gbe connectivity, then a cheap 4 port 2.5gbe with a sfp+ port switch may be better and get a 10dbe sfp+ dac cable between the two switches then going the route you intend to go down with the sfp+ to rj45
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 06-Apr-24 14:47:39
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Thers have questioned whether the Draytek is overkill? From what I can see £800 - is that right?

Have a look at teh UI UXG-max https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/pro/category/all-cloud... Under £200. It has both 2.5Gbit WAN and LAN


If you still need an SFP module - you need to ensure it will support the ONTs 2.5Gbit as some only do 1G or 10G.


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Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sat 06-Apr-24 14:52:24
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have you actually brought the draytek yet?

What features do you need ? I do understand that once you are in the Draytek club you kinda don't want to leave which is fair enough but from what you are saying the 3912 if not already brought may from the port issue alone be not suiteable.

If you have brought the said unit, and need further 2.5gbe connectivity, then a cheap 4 port 2.5gbe with a sfp+ port switch may be better and get a 10dbe sfp+ dac cable between the two switches then going the route you intend to go down with the sfp+ to rj45


No not yet purchased it yet, I have found it at a good price of £789 though
I love the build quality of Draytek routers and the interface I have got so used to, so yes I am in the club as you say
Still open to a comparable router with the same build quality/features though

I was going to put a 2.5Gb switch in the loft anyway, so its no problem at the end of the day, just thought it would be nice to have a spare 2.5Gb port available

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 06-Apr-24 15:02:02
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as Mhc said, and i said in around about way, is this is overkill.🙈.

What is your current network map?

Also what services or servers are you running, as we can give suggestions with out that info, but it would help to provide with the right equipment.

From what you have said, at most is that you need switching not a router.

Something that is right for your setup and probably several hundreds of pounds cheaper!
Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sat 06-Apr-24 15:05:35
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Thers have questioned whether the Draytek is overkill? From what I can see £800 - is that right?


Well yes it probably is overkill, but I love to always over spec things, a sense of non failure in use
Price wise I can get it for £788, I am not too worried about the price, as long its top quality/build which it is and having used Draytek for ever, I am so used used to and love the interface

As far as the SFP+ module is concerned, "JPM" has found the correct item, though I cant find it for sale anywhere yet

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 06-Apr-24 15:08:54
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Have a serious look at the UI gateway in my previous post. And that will be a straight forward Cat6/RJ45


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Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sat 06-Apr-24 15:38:15
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as MHC said, and i said in around about way, is this is overkill.🙈.


Yes its overkill, but as I replied to MHC, I always over spec/engineer things and I am not too worried about the cost

Yes I will be adding a 2.5Gb switch to work alongside my two 1Gb switch's in the loft

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Standard User choppersrock
(member) Sat 06-Apr-24 20:15:29
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I'm using the dream machine se. It has a 2.5gb rj45 wan port (im on 2gb/2gb)and 10gb sfp+ports for wan or lan. Great bit of kit. I use an sfp to rj45 module to link it to my 10gb switch. It's a fair bit cheaper than the draytek too.

YF 2gb/2gb with ipv6 - Dream Machine SE
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Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sun 07-Apr-24 10:15:54
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Have a look at teh UI UXG-max https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/pro/category/all-cloud... Under £200. It has both 2.5Gbit WAN and LAN


Looking at their website this only does "up to 1.5Gbs routing", so no good for a 1.8Gb connection
unless I am reading this wrong

The "gateway pro" seems to be more in spec

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Standard User Adduxi
(member) Sun 07-Apr-24 10:40:32
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Just noticed the 3912 has two 2.5Gb ports as well. Can you not just use one of those and move to SFP+ if needed in the future?
I also like the Draytek units btw, as I've had 4 so far and I can't fault them. If an old fa*t like myself can use them, the UI is doing something right smile
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 07-Apr-24 11:06:52
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Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sun 07-Apr-24 11:14:21
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Just noticed the 3912 has two 2.5Gb ports as well. Can you not just use one of those and move to SFP+ if needed in the future?


Yeah that was what I was thinking as well

Like you I am an old Fa*t as well

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Standard User Colinh58
(newbie) Sun 07-Apr-24 11:18:31
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The module Draytek list as being compatible with that router, and able to run at 2.5Gb, is this one


Cant find this one anywhere for sale

Do you think this one will work ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/10Gtek-Transceiver-Compatib...

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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Sun 07-Apr-24 11:35:04
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Rather than a random vendor I would go with one from Flexoptix if you can afford it, otherwise from fs.com

With Amazon sellers you have no idea what carp you are buying. It's like E-bay, but worse.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 07-Apr-24 12:16:24
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That is with full IDS/IPS running.


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Standard User danielhyde
(committed) Mon 08-Apr-24 10:50:46
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That is a fair old chunk of money when you get get pfSense hardware for only a little more

pfSense

Thanks
Dan
Standard User daern
(learned) Mon 08-Apr-24 11:42:17
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In reply to a post by danielhyde:
That is a fair old chunk of money when you get get pfSense hardware for only a little more

pfSense

And if you're technically inclined (which I admit is not everyone!), you could chuck PFSense or OPNSense on a generic N100 box with 2.5Gb interfaces and be up and running in minutes!
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