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Hi everyone,
I’m a long time lurker on here, and I am very grateful for all the information I have amassed in years gone by!
I would be very interested in people’s thoughts on my FTTP situation. Let me start by laying out the scenario.
My house is served by a telegraph pole on the neighbouring street which has CBTs on it and which has had lots of work at its base over the last year. Let’s call that pole A. The copper spans about 30m over two back gardens to a carrier pole - pole B, which has no CBTs on it - and and then to my house (another 10m or so). To note, pole A also serves another carrier pole - pole C, which has no CBTs on it - on the same street as pole A, about a 40m span.
The neighbouring street seemingly went live for FTTP WBC on Friday 28th June, 10 days ago. My daily checking of the BT Wholesale Checker showed properties served by both pole A directly, and also from pole A via pole C, going from FTTP On Demand 330 / 30 on Thursday 27th June to FTTP WBC 1000 / 220 on Friday 28th June. Those properties are also able to place an order on BT’s website.
At the same time, my house and the other properties served by pole B went from FTTPoD 330 / 30 on Thursday 27th June to FTTPoD 1000 / 220 on Friday 28th June. I have read on here and other forums that the shift to FTTPoD 1000 / 220 is usually a positive sign and that FTTP WBC can follow a few days later. However, my trepidation lies in the fact that a) it is close to two weeks since that shift happened, and more importantly b) that lots of other properties served by both the master pole (pole A) and other carrier pole (pole C) can already order FTTP WBC.
The only difference I can establish is that the span from pole A to pole B (my pole) is over two back gardens - is that something that would be viewed as just two hard?!
Any advice about how to proceed would be gratefully received. Is it worth a raising a query with Openreach?
Thank you in advance!
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Hi everyone.
Just an update on this… it doesn’t sound promising!
In summary, at the end of June, my BT Wholesale Checker changed from FTTPoD 330 to FTTPoD 1000, so I thought I was a few days away from being able to order. However, today, the Openreach Checker changed from September 2024 to December 2026, so it feels further away than ever!
A recap of my situation…
Like a lot of people, I have been waiting for FTTP for a long time. While the Openreach Checker has been gradually moving out, it always remained relatively current; it moved from December 2023 to March 2024 to June 2024 to September 2024.
At the end of June, the telegraph pole that serves my house (via a carrier pole) went live for FTTP.
The properties connected to that pole can order FTTP. My house and the others connected to the carrier pole cannot. However, in conjunction with the main pole going live, my BT Wholesale Checker record changed from FTTPoD 330 to FTTPoD 1000, so I thought our houses would follow a few days later.
My address has stayed at FTTPoD 1000 ever since, so last week I raised a “my neighbours can get FTTP but I can’t” query through Openreach.
Today I got a response, telling me that fibre wasn’t planned for my area (despite numerous update emails over the last year telling me it was coming). The Openreach Checker has also changed from September 2024 to December 2026!
So from feeling very hopeful a few weeks ago, it now feels further away than ever!
Has anyone else had a similar experience. Is there any other route I can try to get clarity on the situation?
Thank you in advance.
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What is the distance between the poles?
At least the checker doesnt state "no plans".
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The distance from the main pole - which is live for FTTP and has CBTs on it (I counted about 24 ports across three CBTs) - to the carrier pole is about 30 metres. The current copper cable goes between two houses and over two back gardnes, and through one sparse tree, so it is over private property.
The distance from the carrier pole to my house is another 10 metres or so. The carrier pole is on my next door neighbour’s driveway.
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Seems a mess, and the FTTP pole is further away than the copper pole right?
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Correct. My copper starts at the pole which is live for FTTP (for my neighbours at least!) - let’s call that pole A - runs 30m over two back gardens to the carrier pole - pole B - and then another 10m to my house.
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Ok that makes things clearer. Also makes more sense why they havent activated your pole, as there is private property in between.
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Ok that makes things clearer. Also makes more sense why they havent activated your pole, as there is private property in between.
Why should that matter? As long as the line is 3m above the ground they have statutory powers to pass over private land without needing a wayleave
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/schedul...
It's what's often referred to as "the flying wires act".
Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 18-Jul-24 02:15:36)
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Correct. My copper starts at the pole which is live for FTTP (for my neighbours at least!) - let’s call that pole A - runs 30m over two back gardens to the carrier pole - pole B - and then another 10m to my house.
How many properties are served by the activated pole?
How many ports are on the black plastic CBT fitted at the top of this pole? It will be 4, 8 or 12, unless there's more than 1 CBT fitted.
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Hi John,
There are three CBTs on the pole - it is a bit difficult to see but there are either 2 x 12 ports and 1 x 4 port (so 28 ports in total), or 1 x 12, 1 x 8 and 1 x 4 ports (so 24 in total).
I will need to count how many properties are served by the connected pole, but I think it is easily 20.
There are four properties served by the carrier pole, including mine.
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