Fibre definitely being laid without doubt

Hello,

This time I asked the engineers and they confirmed that they are indeed laying fibre along the main street. That black object is what all the fibre from the surrounding area will connect to, hence this is the main connection point.

https://i.imghippo.com/files/k27te1725318805.jpg

Fibre yes. Residential fibre...maybe not. Did they definitely confirm that this was residential stuff?

(Source: Me. Had fibre up the road two years before we actually got residential fibre because it was for a business fibre order on a business park 200yds away. Despite the fibre being literally bolted to my pole, I still, to this day, cannot order Openreach residential FTTP and only have fibre at home thanks to a friendly altnet who *did* fibre my street)

Edited by daern (Tue 03-Sep-24 11:00:50)

You can just about read ‘spine C ‘ on the enclosure , so it may not be a node as such ( like an aggregation node ) but a joint to extend spine cables, however it is undoubtedly part of OR FTTP network, it’s not necessarily going to be useful to the OP in ordering FTTP anytime soon , but that’s being pessimistic, perhaps it will , it’s not likely to be extending leased line infrastructure, but Openreach no longer differentiate , it’s one fibre network now anyway , so Ethernet leased lines could also be using the joint at some point in the future, but a leased line order is not likely to be driving that infrastructure being installed, it’s definitely FTTP

Edited by Iniltous (Tue 03-Sep-24 13:01:16)

In reply to a post by Iniltous:

You can just about read ‘spine C ‘ on the enclosure , so it may not be a node as such ( like an aggregation node ) but a joint to extend spine cables, however it is undoubtedly part of OR FTTP network, it’s not necessarily going to be useful to the OP in ordering FTTP anytime soon , but that’s being pessimistic, perhaps it will , it’s not likely to be extending leased line infrastructure, but Openreach no longer differentiate , it’s one fibre network now anyway , so Ethernet leased lines could also be using the joint at some point in the future, but a leased line order is not likely to be driving that infrastructure being installed, it’s definitely FTTP

Yes I did walk over to speak to one of them and asked when we could expect FTTP to our homes. He confirmed it will take a few months (less than a year).

Depends who you spoke to. If you were lucky and got one of the senior engineers with visibility of the plans, this could be correct. If it's just a general cabling bod then what they say may have no correlation with the true situation. There have been plenty of examples of this reported in the past.

It's not their fault; if they're just working on their own piece and don't know the bigger picture then they will make their own assumptions (i.e. they *presume* they're working on this piece because FTTP is going live in the next few months). Plus it's what people want to hear.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Depends who you spoke to. If you were lucky and got one of the senior engineers with visibility of the plans, this could be correct. If it's just a general cabling bod then what they say may have no correlation with the true situation. There have been plenty of examples of this reported in the past.

It's not their fault; if they're just working on their own piece and don't know the bigger picture then they will make their own assumptions (i.e. they *presume* they're working on this piece because FTTP is going live in the next few months). Plus it's what people want to hear.

Ahh ok I hadn't realised that. Thanks. There are 0 big commercial properties in this area though, so hopefully it's good news.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

It's not their fault; if they're just working on their own piece and don't know the bigger picture then they will make their own assumptions (i.e. they *presume* they're working on this piece because FTTP is going live in the next few months). Plus it's what people want to hear.

Also plans change.

In reply to a post by hunnymonster:

In reply to a post by candlerb:

It's not their fault; if they're just working on their own piece and don't know the bigger picture then they will make their own assumptions (i.e. they *presume* they're working on this piece because FTTP is going live in the next few months). Plus it's what people want to hear.

Also plans change.

yup, noted.

they can and do change, even during construction of each pon. Theres varied reason some due to cost and others due to reality on the ground issues

In reply to a post by Taras:

they can and do change, even during construction of each pon. Theres varied reason some due to cost and others due to reality on the ground issues

At the end of the day, that's what happened to us. We were planned to be upgraded and LightSource (then contractor for OR) stuck rods into a few ducts, declared them all "blocked and unusable" and disappeared never to return (eventually going bust). We were soon after (6 months - that's an openreach "soon" ) downgraded to "not planned" and there it has remained ever since.

Ironically, it took our new altnet's civils team just a couple of days of rodding, digging and pulling to get ducting through to all of the poles along the street, adopting a "we'll shove it through the ducts if we can, and dig a hole if we can't" approach to getting it done, so it's not like it was a massive impossibility. Maybe LightSource planned to do the same had they remained solvent - who's to know.

The whole, immediate area round us is now fibred up apart from one little corner where the residents kicked up a fuss about planning permission for a new pole on a corner of private land. It looks like the altnet just shrugged and bypassed those houses. Sucks to be them, I guess.

Edited by daern (Thu 05-Sep-24 11:41:45)