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Over 6 months into my lovely new FTTP connection and extremely happy with things. Unfortunately, because it is provided by an altnet, when it was installed they left the existing copper overhead line in place as they "are not allowed to touch existing lines", which made sense at the time. Indeed, I would have told them to leave it up anyway as we were one of the first on a new exchange to be installed and I didn't want to be without internet. As it happens, it took another 3 weeks after installation for the new service to go live, so it was a good job the old connection was left behind!
But, several months have now passed and it would be nice to get rid of the second overhead line. Is there any facility within Openreach to request its removal? Is it something they would want to do anyway, given that right now, there is no OR FTTP provision on my pole?
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...I though it got blown down in yesterday's winds 😉
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...I though it got blown down in yesterday's winds 😉
Better than being under water, I guess 
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That is for if it is dangerous, old copper cables are not normally dangerous unless they are hanging low over a road.
At some point they may vanish, but they are not harming anyone hanging. I did think I would like to get rid of the master socket, but I will leave It, a reminder of old days  . Also, never know if I may need it again.
Adrian
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Also, never know if I may need it again.
You are never ever, gonna get back with the rj11
😂🤭🙈🍾
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It is the correct path suggested by Openreach
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You are never ever, gonna get back with the rj11
Trust Taras, this is the truth.
25 years of broadband connectivity since Sep 1999 trial - Live BQM
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You are never ever, gonna get back with the rj11
Trust Taras, this is the truth.
song jokes aside, as more and more are able to have fttp this will certainly be the case. Many in other threads have stated (and you yourself fully understand) that fttc as a backup to fttp is limited in being a back up service.
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And when the area goes copper stop-sell, you won't be able to regrade the FTTC or migrate it to another provider.
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And when the area goes copper stop-sell, you won't be able to regrade the FTTC or migrate it to another provider.
its a bit like the grim reaper coming for the copper wires 🙈🤭
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song jokes aside, as more and more are able to have fttp this will certainly be the case. My openreach PSTN was ceased in 2019, and even then Virgin Media cable was provisioning voice services via the cable modem/hub/router thing. At least with VM you have modem mode (unless in nexfibre area!) so you don't lose voice if you want to use your own router/firewall. (If you want voice for that price).
Many in other threads have stated (and you yourself fully understand) that fttc as a backup to fttp is limited in being a back up service. I'm a fan of 4G, as there is a mast in my road, but I'm fairly lucky with my cable service in this area, its pretty good.
25 years of broadband connectivity since Sep 1999 trial - Live BQM
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Also, never know if I may need it again.
You are never ever, gonna get back with the rj11
😂🤭🙈🍾
you never know.
Adrian
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OR haven't removed the copper lines from any of the properties upgraded to FTTP in our town. All properties that had an existing line, now have 2.
Mark
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Indeed, I got lucky in that they removed mine because it was a contractor and he needed the copper to help pull the fibre across the multiple gardens my drop hangs over. Its not routinely removed.
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This is not necessarily relevant, but it may be a possible route. When I finally went fibre + VoIP (not via OR) I contacted OR via their website, to request disconnection of their underground cable to my master socket. No problem, no charge. The very cheerful guy arrived on time, chopped off the cable, although I have no idea what happened at the far end, and even kindly offered to remove the old wall box that had been nailed to the wall by the builder 50 years ago. After redecoration all traces of the old line have gone. Perhaps OR might be amenable to doing something similar for overhead cables.
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I have altnet FTTP and still had the copper from the pole.
One day a van hit the pole and took the copper down. Luckily the fibre stayed up. Reported to Openreach and a few days later they came to replace the pole. I said the one of the guys that they didn't need to bother putting my copper feed back up....he said that they had to!
Ironically it was getting late by the time they were finishing up and the same guy came and asked if I was still OK not the have the copper put back up. I said yes, and they removed it.
Very bizarre!
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Openreach, a very bizarre company.
if they are getting rid of copper, then why did they put a cable going to my next door neighbour with copper and fibre in? I can tell by the thickness of it.
Adrian
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When our FTTP was installed in July 2003, I asked the OR Contractor if he would remove the copper drop-wire. No problem he said, and down it came.
My two reasons for wanting down were a) visual and b) removing the risk of induced voltages in the event of nearby lightning strikes. We had already suffered loss of modem, router and VoIP ATA previously.
I accepted the risk of downtime if there were any problems, but could get around that with 4G.
The houses either side of us did not request removal and thus have their old copper drop-wire still in place.
Cheers!
Clive
Andrews & Arnold Home::1 FTTP Technicolor DGA0122 Cisco ATA191 for A&A VoIP together with a HUAWEI E5776 with O2 Data SIM
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Maybe your neighbour has a copper service that was being retained.
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Or perhaps OpenReach had a stock of combined cable and it is better to install it and not use the copper part than to scrap it.
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https://openreach.my.salesforce-sites.com/form/?NRV
Honestly, it really was as simple as this. Filled it in a few days ago, had an email with more questions back and a follow-up phone call today to go through it and book an appointment. They're coming on 20th Jan to remove it, at no charge.
Job's a good 'un. Thanks!
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