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There's a 12-port distribution point, with the main feed connected, but no connections to any of the ports, and Openreach checker doesn't show any service to my phone or postcode (EH12 5BB).
BT Wholesale checker (which is now https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/) does show On Demand only. Is there any way to find out who put that box there?
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Just because it’s there, doesn’t mean that it’s always ready for service yet..
54-46 was my number
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Openreach CBTs are usually quite distinctive. Can you post up a photo (use a hosting site and link to here)?
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Thanks for following up. Here's the
device: https://hst.name/optisheath.jpg
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How long has it been there for?
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I'm somewhat embarassed to say that I don't know. The feeder cable coming in to the bottom looks fairly clean. There are three flats in this slice of the row I live in. Would an old Virgin connection to one of the other flats have used a device like this one?
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The ID in the photo looks like an Openreach one.
54-46 was my number
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That’s an Openreach CBT. Been there a little while by the look of it. So as @Zarjas says they may not have completed the build yet. Looks like there is Openreach FTTP available in some of the streets around you but not yet in Douglas Cr, Eglinton Cr or Glencairn Cr.
You may wish to put an enquiry in via the Openreach Availability Checker Enquiry Form:
https://www.openreach.com/forms/fibre-broadband-avai...
Edited by Pheasant (Tue 07-Jan-25 18:55:54)
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I put in the enquiry as you suggested, thanks, and eventually got this reply
If any equipment has been installed externally, this may be part of a plan which has been removed from our rollout and is not currently active.
So, my only option is to look at On Demand, I admit I'm somewhat curious as to what the cost would be...
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It begs the question, who owns the wall?
Cheers!
Clive
Andrews & Arnold Home::1 FTTP Technicolor DGA0122 Cisco ATA191 for A&A VoIP together with a HUAWEI E5776 with O2 Data SIM
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Hmmm yeah FoD. You can certainly ask Cerberus for a desktop quote. Did one recently. Be sitting down when you open the email. I doubt it will be any less than what mine was £9,900.
The Openreach CBT just happened to be right outside, just the OR NAD database hadn’t been updated properly. So it was actual available as standard FTTP. So I would take £9,900 + VAT as being the low water mark / starter for ten nowadays with Openreach FTTPoD….
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Probably not a big deal @Clive in the grand scheme of things. Openreach routinely mount their CBT on external walls of buildings.
I was in Dartmouth a while ago and this was fairly common in town…
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Probably not a big deal @Clive in the grand scheme of things. Openreach routinely mount their CBT on external walls of buildings.
I was in Dartmouth a while ago and this was fairly common in town…
just remember that a cbt is effectively a waterproof and lockable connector for sc/apc. So deploying them is peanuts to OR and they can lay there dark for a number of years (with us it was 4 years)
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They’ll probably be there for the next 20 or 30 years, so the “new car smell” will just about be gone in 4 😂
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They’ll probably be there for the next 20 or 30 years, so the “new car smell” will just about be gone in 4 😂
well my fttp connection is via one of those now nearly 5 year old cbts lol
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4 years is a long time from fist install to ready for service. The CBT we had installed in Suffolk is looking a bit greener these days, it will be there coming on 6 years fairly soon. Time flies.
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There are plenty of other examples of FTTP rollouts being abandoned part way through though.
If this is an MDU then maybe it got stuck on wayleave issues before it could be marked ready to order. You'd *think* they would sort that *before* deciding to put up equipment, but that would depend on the level of communication between the various teams involved.
Also, I would never suggest connecting an optical light meter to one of the ports 
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What like this. Perish the thought 💠😂
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It may not be a universal requirement, and contractors may have different procedures to OR direct labour , but generally when a CBT is connected to the splitter by Openreach , it’s unlikely that every port is lit up on that CBT , a 4 port is 1 to 3 dwellings, and an 8 port is 4 to maximum of 7 dwellings , and only the number of fibres required for the dwellings that CBT was designed to serve are pushed through from the splitter, so a 12 port could be designed with anywhere between 8 and 12 fibres connected ,…the tech who effectively commissions the CBT by connecting at the splitter and would indicate how many live fibres from the splitter been provided by writing that on the CBT enclosure, so if for example 9 live fibres , then (9) written next to the CBT code ,as there is no such number on this CBT, it indicates that the ‘tail’ from the CBT was never connected at the splitter node
Edited by Iniltous (Tue 14-Jan-25 15:42:51)
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New Openreach CBT, photo taken this morning during a Hyperoptic install. So six ports spliced up at the CBT? Rather than 8 or 12 in the tail.
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If 6 fibres are required for the addresses that CBT is designed to supply , then an 8 port CBT would be the appropriate size rather than 12 , but there are some get out of jail cards should the installation be audited, for example if no 8 port CBT were available, fitting a 12 port is acceptable given the alternative would be to defer the installation until 8 ports were available…TBH , my understanding was the number of fibres would be inside parentheses/ brackets to indicate it’s not a part of the CBT code / designation, so in this case it could be 6 fibres connected, it’s not really clear as the number 6 isn’t inside brackets (6) , but it’s certainly possible, and the spice is at the splitter, the CBT has every port connected at the factory, only the required number of fibres spliced at the splitter by the fibre jointer referring to the ‘FNC’ , the document indicating how many live fibres the CBT should have
Edited by Iniltous (Tue 14-Jan-25 15:36:35)
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No parentheses - but a clear “6” on top of this 12-port CBT. Personally I think it’s the wrong size CBT for the properties able to be served form this chamber, but then again Openreach would never make a mistake 😅
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No parentheses - but a clear “6” on top of this 12-port CBT. Personally I think it’s the wrong size CBT for the properties able to be served form this chamber, but then again Openreach would never make a mistake 😅
You mean not like having fibre joint boxes low enough on poles to be vandalised or cbt's too close to the electric cables on a shared pole ðŸ¤. Or actually loose the original spine network diagram and have to redo it in a quarter ........
That said i'm still happy with end result
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A few observations on this Alt Net working in an Openreach box allowed under PIA , no guarding , no gas detector, and the selection of hand tools is worrisome, what possible use is the the hammer …..at least there are no connections on that OR CBT , but it’s not impossible to imagine the bodge it and scarper Alt Net techs , leaving faults in their wake , and misrepresenting where they were working so that they will never be held accountable for the problems they cause
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A few observations on this Alt Net working in an Openreach box allowed under PIA , no guarding , no gas detector, and the selection of hand tools is worrisome, what possible use is the the hammer …..at least there are no connections on that OR CBT , but it’s not impossible to imagine the bodge it and scarper Alt Net techs , leaving faults in their wake , and misrepresenting where they were working so that they will never be held accountable for the problems they cause
At least its not a thor sized hammer!!!!!! Seriously though having not having a gas detector is sorta a de-facto requirement, unless you really want to have a bad day!
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For completeness before this gets out of hand: guarding was in place, however photo was zoomed, so not in evident in shot but was there, as were other tools etc.
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