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Standard User VWGolfman
(knowledge is power) Fri 18-Apr-25 18:36:58
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FTTP available I have some questions if you can help please?


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Hi all, I wonder if you kind and informed people might be able to help answer a few questions about FTTP installs for me please?

I recently caught up with some engineers outside of our apartment block who advised me that they were running in fibre for BT Openreach.
Within a couple of weeks they were done and each apartment in my block now has a length of fibre terminating in a small, white plastic enclosure just outside of their front doors.
In the mean time I have received a letter from BT Internet (I think it was) advising that FTTP is now serving us and that they are able to accept orders (I currently have GFast with BT Internet).
I have looked inside the enclosure and it appears as though there is a short length of fibre coiled up, terminating with a green connector inside.

Am I right in thinking that if I order FTTP, they will look to put an ONC on the wall just inside the apartment and that the coiled-up length inside will be enough to reach it?
I assume that's their standard plan?

However, my router is in another room so I am considering my options for reaching it.

The engineer will need to drill a hole through from the plastic enclosure just above my front door as there is no other way in to the apartment.
Can I ask him to kindly drill a second hole and pass the fibre through that into the room with the router?

Ideally, the fibre will need to come in through the hole just above the front door, route around a door frame and down to the skirting board, through the second hole and then be routed along the skirting board in the next room to the router.

Based on other people's experiences, is this something he would do for me?
Will he be able to run the fibre around the door frame and along the skirting board, tacking it neatly in the process?

Will the engineer fill any holes which he makes?

Am I right in thinking that the ONC has a single ethernet port?
If so then I guess my other option is to run an ethernet cable around myself but the fibre might be neater as it's thinner.

Do the engineers ever splice lengths of fibre?
If not, will he/she need some kind of interconnection unit just inside the front door to give themselves enough length to run round to the router in the other room?
What do they do if they have excess fibre left at the ONC end?

Sorry for so many questions - I am completely out of touch with FTTP installs.
Thank you for any help.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 18-Apr-25 18:42:03
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The ONT can be remote from the router - you can just run your own Cat5e/6 Ethernet cable between them.


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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 18-Apr-25 19:02:32
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As I wrote in another thread on similar topic earlier today, it’s quite likely that Openreach will use a very thin gauge fibre on the inside of your flat called InvisiLight.

This is extremely thin (barely a millimetre in diameter) and is literally glued into placed around skirtings and architraves so as to be almost invisible to see. It also allows additional flexibility in terms of where you ideally would want the ONT to be sited within the flat.

Best to discuss your thoughts regards to ONT siting, cable routes, any through wall penetrations etc with your engineer on the day. They are generally very accommodating.


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Standard User Realalemadrid
(experienced) Fri 18-Apr-25 19:12:25
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There are reports that Openreach are now using a somewhat different installation method in apartments (MDUS). This is Invisilight fibre, the box outside your door is the POE unit, very confusing as to me that means Power over Ethernet but it this case it is Point of Entry. They connect a spool of fibre inside the property it is extremely thin and almost invisible and can be glued to skirtings or the ceiling and go round corners and through walls to where you want the ONT to be. Search for Invisilight to find out more about it. I have an FTTP order in progress, it's a bit slow as some digging is need to clear a blocked duct. I wish they could install invisilight for me as the cable entry is at the front of the house (into a toilet!) and my office/computer room is at the back and not easy to get an ethernet cable round doors and corners neatly.

I see @Pheasant has beaten me to it!
Standard User VWGolfman
(knowledge is power) Fri 18-Apr-25 20:21:47
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Thank you and @Pheasant for both your help!

Very interesting and it would indeed seem that Invisilight is what we have.
My reason for this assumption is that there appear to be several conductors + one fibre inside the same jacket entering the POE.

https://imgur.com/a/NyrdUHW

I see, so the fibre from the POE comes through a hole near the door and terminates in a box with a spool of fibre in it. The engineer then spools off as much as he/she needs so there is no excess to coil up at the far end.
Nice!

What is the benefit to the fibre carrying power in addition to the fibre?
Is it purely to negate the need to plug the ONC into a power socket at the other end?
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 18-Apr-25 21:01:17
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[re: VWGolfman] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by VWGolfman:
https://imgur.com/a/NyrdUHW


ahh a micro indoor csp!
Standard User Realalemadrid
(experienced) Fri 18-Apr-25 21:05:24
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There is no power supplied by the fibre, the ONT requires its own supply. The only thing coming from the POE is a fibre connected to the green connector block.
Standard User VWGolfman
(knowledge is power) Fri 18-Apr-25 21:18:22
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What is one of those? confused
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 18-Apr-25 21:36:51
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It’s not a splice point !

It’s a ‘fibre tidy/SC push fit’ point.

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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 19-Apr-25 08:01:59
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In reply to a post by Taras:
In reply to a post by VWGolfman:
https://imgur.com/a/NyrdUHW


ahh a micro indoor csp!

A Compact POE made by Dexgreen.

https://dexgreen.com/collections/ftth-solutions/prod...
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