MDU AltNets reuse connectorised ez-bend fibre from PoE?

It would be great where multiple AltNets such as Hyperoptic and Cityfibre are available that they can either reuse the existing Point of Entry unit outside each apartment or can reconnect the existing connectorised ez-bend fibre that goes between the Point of entry enclosure to the point where the new provider can plug their ONT into.

Assuming this isn't possible at present? Would be good way to reduce amount of work needed when switching to a different AltNet where they haven't supplied before. Why not reuse what could be compatible anyway without the unnecessary waste of extra ez-bend style fibre having to be installed?

This has always been the issue with switching between infrastructure providers.

Providers will always want their fibre cable and ONT left in place when the service is deactivated to make life easy should someone want it reactivated. There is also the question of ownership as the cabling and ONT remains the property of the installing infrastructure provider.

I’ve always felt this is the sort of thing a building owner should get involved with, and what the service charge should cover. CityFibre, Openreach etc. drop their fibre off in the basement and the building internal network takes it the rest of the way - a four core fibre blown to each unit for ease of future maintenance and the fibre providers patch into it. It’s not a good use of anyone’s time to build 2-3 sets of horizontal cabling.

It's been tried. It failed.

There was a company which installed such internal cabling, but they wanted payment from the service providers to access the asset. The service providers, not surprisingly, refused. (I can't remember the name of the company).

In any case, the operators want to have end-to-end control over the service, since the cost of sending out an engineer to investigate a fault is very high. Every push-fit connector is a potential point of failure.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

It's been tried. It failed.


In any case, the operators want to have end-to-end control over the service, since the cost of sending out an engineer to investigate a fault is very high. Every push-fit connector is a potential point of failure.

plus end to end security.

As for the op, i'd try and keep the ont close to the entry of the flat. and just have one set of cabling from there.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

It's been tried. It failed.

There was a company which installed such internal cabling, but they wanted payment from the service providers to access the asset. The service providers, not surprisingly, refused. (I can't remember the name of the company).

In any case, the operators want to have end-to-end control over the service, since the cost of sending out an engineer to investigate a fault is very high. Every push-fit connector is a potential point of failure.

Can you imagine having an unlocked fibre patch panel in the basement where any provider could do the patching. 😎

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In reply to a post by candlerb:

It's been tried. It failed.

There was a company which installed such internal cabling, but they wanted payment from the service providers to access the asset. The service providers, not surprisingly, refused. (I can't remember the name of the company).

In any case, the operators want to have end-to-end control over the service, since the cost of sending out an engineer to investigate a fault is very high. Every push-fit connector is a potential point of failure.

Can you imagine having an unlocked fibre patch panel in the basement where any provider could do the patching. 😎

and you found out somebody's ont serial and isp pw............

I think the easiest answer has been missed …

A national FTTP network, all rolled out and owned by one company, and the various providers just bring links to a central exchange.

But many would complain for sure.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I think the easiest answer has been missed …

A national FTTP network, all rolled out and owned by one company, and the various providers just bring links to a central exchange.

Isn't that what we really had with LLU before the days of altnets. If it was to be implemented with full fibre we know who would be king again.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I think the easiest answer has been missed …

A national FTTP network, all rolled out and owned by one company, and the various providers just bring links to a central exchange.

But many would complain for sure.

Isn’t that a textbook definition of a monopoly? Unless of course it was state owned with all the downsides and inefficiencies that would cause.