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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 27-Sep-12 20:03:41
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Of course I wont mention the various projects Ive written software for, where the software was a key but small component, or where in other cases the deadline could not actually be moved

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 27-Sep-12 20:09:02
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BT has not committed to the government target date, it has committed to end its commercial roll-out and some BDUK projects if you read their plans have milestones in 2015 but continue beyond then

As for exchange viable, accountant sits in office works out cost per cabinet, and lines per cabinet and sees if the project software gives it a yeah or hey

BT meeting the BDUK targets is very much down to whether the BDUK can get EU state aid approval at this time, that is the biggest delay there. Also note the proposed change in planning rules, if planning was not a delaying factor why bother with this change that may become legislation in 2013.

Openreach mess up, but the roll-out is carrying on, and I know some are webbed to the belief it will fail and we will all be doomed to have ADSL only for the next three decades

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 27-Sep-12 20:12:41
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Question really is whether the people doing the work were idle or busy installing cabinets elsewhere.

Or like once the flood waters subside they might have to be repairing telephone lines that have failed, or repair FTTC cabs that got flooded, rather than install more new hardware.

Just because once does not see activity it does not mean the people doing the work are not busy elsewhere.

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www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Thu 27-Sep-12 20:21:21
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
BT would certainly react far more quickly if there were competion as if BT failed to deliver a compeitor would be taking business from them but as it has no competition it is actually in its best interest to drag its heels

Virgin Media would consider themselves competition.

James BT Infinity 2 - 19/9/2012 - Install-sync: 52/12 - Test: 50/10 - Est: 44.6/6.5 Mbps
13 years of broadband - ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(16M)/BT FTTC(50M)
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Thu 27-Sep-12 21:00:40
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Question really is whether the people doing the work were idle or busy installing cabinets elsewhere.

Or like once the flood waters subside they might have to be repairing telephone lines that have failed, or repair FTTC cabs that got flooded, rather than install more new hardware.

Just because once does not see activity it does not mean the people doing the work are not busy elsewhere.
Of course, this could well be the case, But when openreach AKA BT Refuse to be transparent to us the End user /bill payer /customer and the CP's /Isp's What do they expect us to think ? The reason they are getting slated is because they are far too worried or paranoid about a non existent competitor ,who may roll out their infrastructure before them, We just dont know , and as such are unable to make plans ect , i for one wont be going the FTTC route ,i'll wait until they start offering Fiber on demand (fttp) at reasonable rates or i can buy such from a cp/isp
Or they give isp's the same levels of control over their settings that are available via LLU currently

Standard User simon194
(member) Thu 27-Sep-12 21:16:40
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
Most commmercial projects have penalty clauses that kick in if you miss them

Very few round my was seem to have penalty clauses. There was a gas main replacement project a few years ago to replace a mile or so of pipe scheduled to last 18 weeks, the work was finally completed after 43 weeks.

The contractors even pulled the entire team off the job for 4 weeks to work on another job 30 miles away.
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(deleted) Thu 27-Sep-12 22:21:39
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So all the exchanges that have been booted another 3 months forward, does it mean, even tho cabs etc are in place they don't intend to make them live, just move on to yet another area?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 27-Sep-12 22:25:23
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Just means a chance they might be finished in the next 3 months, but no firm date available yet

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www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 27-Sep-12 22:27:13
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Most of what is needed is being deployed and used now in Cornwall

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(deleted) Thu 27-Sep-12 22:31:23
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Just means a chance they might be finished in the next 3 months, but no firm date available yet


Over six months ago now, when we were meant to be live in June, Kinda wish I had "NEVER" heard nothng about FTTC ,just a complete waste of time.
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