In reply to a post by Fastman2:

for the avoidance of doubt and to deal with some of the misconceptions and frankly petty sarcastic remarks I will try and give you a view on this

There are a number of triggers to determine around Exchanges / cabs- trigger 1 Exchange is either enabled or Not (Y/N) -- if N (then Nothing) if Y then each cab is determined whether it will enabled (god value for money/size./ Cost etc. (Y/N -- if yes is then built if no it is then left

once those cab that are being built are done the exchange is advised as being enabled -- this is consistent right across the UK

there are a number of reason why cabs get delayed / removed -- some of these include -- no access to site / enormous conservation / objections/other planning permission in place - etc. / Highways -- other utilities / cost of power --
FYI an objection can either delay the cab indefinitely (each deal normally around 6 months to 2 years (depending on the work stack which is scheduled months in advance) or remove it all together in some cases. You have to remember this is about premises and coverage and milestones -- so if one cab get removed in exchange X you find another one somewhere else in Exchange Y (around the same cost and premises count) to replace it

No laughing matter im afraid -- thee are number of communties who are not laughing because of all fo the above - angst at their PC or local authority is more the word i woudl use

Edited by deleted (Sat 11-Oct-14 17:23:07)

I was amused by your inability to run your post through a spell checker, so I did it for you.

What's no laughing matter is Openreach's reluctance to make plans available to it's customers., which I know you are well-aware of.

For the avoidance of doubt I will give you the view from the actual area that related to this particular thread and from someone who has been pretty active in this - It may help counter some of the sarcasm and petty trivialization from those apparently unaffected by the situation, and apparently lacking in much background knowledge of the area

This exchange is benefiting from the BDUK funded roll out. In Wales we have the misfortune of this being run from Cardiff Bay, the Cabinet in question (PCP29) was actually scheduled to be completed in June - along with the bulk of the roll out in Pembroke. The triggers you refer to as far as I know are related mostly to BT's commercial roll out and given that the Cabinet was included in the (BDUK) Roll Out they do not in any case have any bearing to the cabinet that we are talking about in this thread

The cabinet was postponed due to "ground issues" at the location originally chosen. and this is where the problem arose. Nothing happened, when Superfast Cymru were asked about progress by myself they responded that a new survey had been completed and was being considered. after a couple of weeks I asked my Assembly Member if she could obtain some indication of a likely window for installation.

Strangely, they responded to her that due to the issues at the original site a survey was needed. This led to a further exchange during which I challenged the different responses. They then claimed that planning was a problem, which led me to the local planners who advised me that the new location had actually been passed by them with no condition or issues in the last week of July. When I related this to my AM she kindly forwarded to me further correspondence from Cardiff Bay dated the last week in September that stated that planning consent was required for the new location.

Yesterday I verified with the Council that the details they had given me were correct and was about to have another crack at Cardiff Bay when we saw that work had finally commenced. The new site is approximately 6 feet from the original site - literally around the corner of a wall bordering the garden of some flats.

The remarks that you find sarcastic stem from encountering outright incompetence and misinformation being fed from a body administering a publicly funded project to an elected representative. We can see that Superfast Cymru have plenty of skill in regurgitating PR fluff from various sources that paint a flattering picture of what is looking to be a rather shambolic roll out that even my AM says seem to be devoid of any clear strategy and is rather patchy in nature.

It is further tempered by the curious state of affairs where areas declared to be a Priority are left to wait until well into the second year of a roll out, and find themselves behind the outskirts of urban locations (where BT had stopped spending money) including one area near Swansea that is represented by the Minister responsible at the time for the roll out, indeed comparing a map of the initial roll out with political colour was a very interesting exercise.

Given that before taking to this forum to highlight the problem I made myself aware that the issue was one of unsuitable ground, that no power issues exist, that there were no highway issues etc I don't think sarcasm is uncalled for - those who object may well be employed by Superfast Cymru - who should be working to improve their accuracy in answering queries from elected representatives and members of the public - or Openreach who have failed throughout the last 10 years (+) to remedy a fault that creates a random instability in my line.

Right now I am about to try to find out if and when the roll out will cover a village where a friend lives - again no information seems available, and yet the exchange that the village is connected to is being upgraded, but no one is willing/able to simply answer him if the village on the same STD code as an exchange being upgraded is going to be included - its not that hard a question surely? His long line is only just ADSL capable, so Fibre to his village cabinet would greatly benefit him and the businesses on the industrial estate that has sprung up alongside it.

Turns out the planners were on the ball and passed everything with apparent urgency a couple of months ago. It is Superfarce Wales who seem unaware of the detail of their own roll out... you couldn't make this stuff up!

Yep Sure enough, around the corner and 6 whole feet away from the original hole dug for the cabinet we have new cabinet sized (and shaped) hole complete with ducting for power and telecoms cables. We just have to hope for some decent drying weather now for concrete as we are now into the 11 month Welsh monsoon season

Finally we are seeing some progress. I can see why the planner I spoke to a few weeks ago seemed a little confused about the location as it isn't on a roadway proper, its on a footpath linking two roads.

With luck I will have decent speeds for Xmas along with a definitive answer about what section of line my Broadband problems lay in - if they continue then it has to be the D side - which BT have been reluctant to look at for 10 years+

roll out and what is coveredis determined by Superfast crymru penreach is working for them in this case - they dettermine the intervention area any any areas od proority

Edited by deleted (Sat 11-Oct-14 18:49:05)

It's nice for Openreach to have someone else to blame, they must get a nice warm feeling
I thought they were in partnership - so does the Govt.

The Superfast Cymru programme is a partnership between the Welsh Government and BT.

@warweezil Congrats fella - sounds like superfarce Wales finally got their ass in gear. I got a couple of mates waiting for that cab too!!

My CAB in Tenby has been put in this weeks too. Drove around town this morning and they're popping up everywhere. They took about 2 weeks to connect the first Fibre CAB to the PCP right next to it so it may be some time before Tenby goes lives

Edited by WelshWArrior (Sat 11-Oct-14 18:59:30)

Let them know its by the post box and almost opposite PCP29 - so behind the flats on the corner. if they want to watch for progress/activity There's a lot to be done yet but it is finally moving