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TalkTalk all day land line and mobile on FTTC costs £6.50/month. Equivalent Vonage package £12/month

But how much would TalkTalk charge you for a standalone landline + unlimited landline/mobile calls? Pretty sure it would be considerably more than 12 notes p/m , just like BT Retail's offering.

My point was that Vonage and such like are charging considerably more to add a comprehensive phone package to FTTP than TalkTalk charge to add a similar package to FTTC or ADSL. There was once a time when VOIP was the cheap option, at least when phoning overseas, not sure this is still the case.

But you can't take out a call package on TT without line rental. Last time i checked TT line rental was £15+ p/m, so in total you're paying £20+ p/m. Helluva lot more than £12/m.

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I ported my landline number to Voipfone. They were very helpful avoiding a problem with my Gigaclear router. Problem went completely when Gigaclear reconfigured the router. I have a Gigaset DECT base station and mainly Gigaset C430 phones.

Hi @idmanager

The plan is from 2025 that there will be no more analogue telephone service from BT Openreach, so everyone will need to switch over to some form of VoIP service before then. If you have only FTTP available, Openreach are not going to install over the top of that any copper wire telephone service as it is going be withdrawn.

It might seem then that FTTP is a disadvantage in one way because you lose the ability to have an analogue telephone line, but really, you are ahead of the game, and will avoid the panic some people will have in 2025 of trying to port their number and set up some sort of VoIP.

So you either not bother with a telephone number for the property at all and just use your mobiles, or if reception is not good, perhaps see if you can use your phones with Wi-Fi calling (essentially VoIP using your mobile number), or alternatively buy one of the many VoIP DECT handsets available and sign up to a VoIP service. If its the case you only want a local number for incoming calls or as an alternative for family/friends to use to get you in an emergency or to be able to call local rate from their end, SipGate give you a free local number at no cost for incoming calls.

Regards

Phil

Sky's new SR203 router has a builtin ATA which is being used by those taking part in their current SOGEA trial and I guess also when they start offering FTTP.

"and will avoid the panic some people will have in 2025 of trying to port their number and set up some sort of VoIP"

You are creating the panic dare I say, the existing retailers of phone services will be keen to retain custom so will be consuming the voice over broadband product. So need for the vast majority to worry about setting up VoIP the plan is the retailers will handle all of this, in the same way that most people know nothing about VPI/VCI settings and just plug their broadband router in.

What that person said.

Hi

Your not serious surely ~27 million or so land lines in the UK needing to transition over to VoIP, and what percentage of those people are going to read my post for it to create real panic? I'd love to think my words reach enough people I could be considered an influencer, but in reality what I say has no impact in the telecoms sector, or anywhere else for that matter.

Perhaps I should feel flattered.

Anyway, to rephrase it then, getting VoIP now and losing the landline, just means you can sit smugly in the knowledge you are all set for the switch over and need to do nothing more and you are ahead of the curve.

Phil

From the prices given by the recommended providers mentioned in this thread, getting VIOP now is just a way of spending double your money if you want a comprehensive service. I'll be keeping an eye on what Sky and TalkTalk can offer when they get in on the act, or finding a way of improving my mobile service.

Spending double?

Voice over broadband e.g. SOGEA on a 40/10 package is likely to come at the same price point and FTTC 40/10 and line rental.

Back when this site was ADSLguide and did modem reviews, off the back of one of those reviews I brought a Zoom modem with socket to plug phone in and make VOIP calls, at the time it was by far the cheapest way to phone family members around the world. Times have moved on and haven't used VOIP for years relying on emails, sms, and Skype calls for international and cheap packages for UK calls.

As I will be moving to FTTP, this thread atracted my interest, there are several suggestions for VOIP providers, so looked them up as I will be needing something to replace my TalkTalk anytime UK landline/mobile call package which costs £6.50 a month, I can't find anything even close. Maybe you could direct me towards a similar value package?