In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Here’s a (hopefully) good omen for you; our final commissioning took place this morning. Had I had the VLANs IDs could probably have been dusted late last week, but we’re cooking with gas (hydrazine!) now....

https://postimg.cc/rDYDVqj5

Question is.....did you use the 10Gtek DAC?

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Here’s a (hopefully) good omen for you; our final commissioning took place this morning. Had I had the VLANs IDs could probably have been dusted late last week, but we’re cooking with gas (hydrazine!) now....

https://postimg.cc/rDYDVqj5

What sort of price are you paying for this kind of connection? What are you ordering from BT as a service description? Thanks!

In reply to a post by alanplum241276:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Here’s a (hopefully) good omen for you; our final commissioning took place this morning. Had I had the VLANs IDs could probably have been dusted late last week, but we’re cooking with gas (hydrazine!) now....

https://postimg.cc/rDYDVqj5

Question is.....did you use the 10Gtek DAC?

Short answer is no, not (so far) tested on a live service.

Only tried it on access whilst we were waiting for the network side to be completed. At that point we did get link up (solid green LED on ADVA and frames passing on router side), but it later appeared to drop back to Red on the ADVA which as was pointed out was probably just due to Link Loss Forwarding, as network was down.

This is an ethernet leased line service,1 Gbps access on a 1 Gbps 'bearer' which is not a straightforward or direct comparable to a broadband service which is shared/contended. There are also stricter service levels and response/fix times being a business service. Unfortunately this makes it quite a bit more expensive than say FTTP. However where this circuit is located there is no possibility of any sort of FTTP, FTTPoD or even FTTC, nor any other Alt Net providers (currently though that may change)

There are many companies out there that will provide (re-sell) leased line circuits which in turn are typically bought through one of the large wholesalers. The final 'tail' or connection between the premises though is typically provided by one of the large established telco's which may already have the fibre in the ground and the connectivity at a local Point of Presence (like a BT exchange) - i.e. the likes of Virgin Media Business or Openreach.

Of course you can order such a service directly from BT, but you are better off shopping around as the actual rental prices, excess construction costs etc vary quite massively between providers and also depending on where you are in the country. There is no one size or standard price.

If you are contemplating this seriously, PM me and I can put you in touch with different providers that quoted at the time.

Well it looks like I have the opposite problem to you Pheasant....

All my internal fibre is in and tested to the mini node (well past it actually), but apparently, it goes via 6 nodes, and all the fibre bundles need to be peeled back or opened or something he said.

No timescale given

On another note.....the 10GTek DAC gives me a green link from the ADVA to my EdgeRouter, That's nice

Heres a picture....excuse the mess, but circled in green.

Rack

Edited by alanplum241276 (Tue 09-Mar-21 17:11:20)

Don't worry had the same sort of external cabling issue here; there was a 7-tube micro-duct from nearest mini-node (TMBERKM for the Openreach folks) to next node (TPPG) here that was blocked. They spent most of the first day trying to resolve it. Eventually they sorted in about 3/4 days or so later - that was an 800m-ish run...

Keep an eye on the ADVA access port LED. Will be interested to here if yours goes red eventually (suspect as there is no network link present upstream and LLF takes effect).

I'm not tinkering with this one for now, getting other internal VLANs sorted currently...

Edited by Pheasant (Tue 09-Mar-21 17:26:09)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Of course you can order such a service directly from BT, but you are better off shopping around as the actual rental prices, excess construction costs etc vary quite massively between providers and also depending on where you are in the country. There is no one size or standard price.

If you are contemplating this seriously, PM me and I can put you in touch with different providers that quoted at the time.

Thanks, I did get a quote for a similar service (not sure if the same or not) from BT direct, but their opener was round £600/pm with a 5 year term inc a Cisco router. It struck me as being expensive at the time.
Probably best let the dust settle on the forthcoming FTTP.

One of the resellers is linebroker.co.uk, you can get a quick idea of the current costs there. You should not need to take any contract longer than 3 years (BT are the ones who take the mickey by asking for 5 years).

Thank you After a bit of googling and sifting through folk who don't look like brokers at all I did get to that linebroker site that does give an idea of current costs and appears to be quoting the bulk of the suppliers, it was very useful. The BT quote & term does now look confirmed like a mick-take.

I'm surprised how little extra the dedicated 1G symmetrical link is above the cost of the 900/200 FTTP options from the few vendors who offer it, considering the contended nature of FTTP.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

One of the resellers is linebroker.co.uk, you can get a quick idea of the current costs there. You should not need to take any contract longer than 3 years (BT are the ones who take the mickey by asking for 5 years).

They’re not too bad for a ballpark. But there’s better to be had. The name is also rather a confusing misnomer as they’re not really a comparison website or in truth “broker”, but as you say a reseller that are offering circuits from various carriers etc. The name draws in the punters.