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Standard User Kobrakai
(newbie) Wed 16-Jun-21 21:01:55
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Question about FTTP installation


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I've just bought a house in an area that can get FTTP. I spoke to my ISP (Zen) about the installation and they told me the fibre cable usually enters the properly from the same location as the existing copper phone line, the only problem is that I have no idea where this is. The phone socket is on an internal wall that I share with a neighbor in a room at the back of the house.

The only cable I can see going into the house goes into the kitchen from the front and I have no idea where it goes from there. If this is the phone line then I assume it must be run inside the walls to the back of the house. Here's a picture of the cable:

https://i.imgur.com/ca2Lgw8.png

There are no suitable power sockets anywhere around the front of the house unless I have my router next to the kettle, so what would the engineer do?
Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 16-Jun-21 22:33:17
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The cable that you are showing in your photo appears to be a Green/Yellow cable as the earth connection to the gas pipe coming out of the (brown) Gas Meter Box.

It may be worth asking a neighbour or two where their telephone line comes into their property.

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Standard User APTMAN
(member) Wed 16-Jun-21 22:50:41
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Re: Question about FTTP installation


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+ 1 Earth bonding cable.
Do you have any telephone post nearby, if so can you see any wire going from it to your/neighbors house ?.

Looks like you may have external insulation added so could have covered any cables.

The internal box or ONT that will be fitted must be have a twin power socket within 1M to power the ONT and router.


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Standard User Kobrakai
(newbie) Wed 16-Jun-21 22:56:59
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I thought the cable might be related to the gas meter but I couldn't think how, an earth cable certainly makes sense.

The estate is very modern (about 10 years old) so the cables are all underground, there are no overhead cables anywhere. It would make more sense that the line was going in from the back based on the location of the phone socket, but the back of the house is covered with wooden decking so I can't see anything.
Standard User trolleybus
(experienced) Thu 17-Jun-21 00:07:00
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In reply to a post by APTMAN:
The internal box or ONT that will be fitted must be have a twin power socket within 1M to power the ONT and router.


Consistently I read that the ONT can be powered through the ethernet cable. Is this a myth or quite true?
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 17-Jun-21 06:05:33
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It is possible that the duct bringing the underground cable to your premises is coming up inside the property.

Start looking in the same location as the fuse board/electric feed.

Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 17-Jun-21 07:01:23
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In reply to a post by trolleybus:
In reply to a post by APTMAN:
The internal box or ONT that will be fitted must be have a twin power socket within 1M to power the ONT and router.


Consistently I read that the ONT can be powered through the ethernet cable. Is this a myth or quite true?

Openreach ONTs can’t be powered via their Ethernet port. It’s not a PoE capable device.
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 17-Jun-21 07:02:31
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Have you asked any of your neighbours if they know where the service entries are?
Standard User kjwkjw
(regular) Thu 17-Jun-21 07:31:50
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In reply to a post by trolleybus:
In reply to a post by APTMAN:
The internal box or ONT that will be fitted must be have a twin power socket within 1M to power the ONT and router.


Consistently I read that the ONT can be powered through the ethernet cable. Is this a myth or quite true?


It can be done if you so wish, you just need something to split the POE back to a jack plug. I do it this way for instance.

I wanted all my infrastructure to stay up in the event of a power cut. The main switch is on a UPS so all of my AP's, CCTV, and router stay up for ~1hr)

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Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 17-Jun-21 07:52:40
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Those TPlink splitters are quite nice from the view that you can select output voltage from 5, 9 or 12 VDC. With the appropriate barrel connectors on the end you can retrofit them to many devices. If you can get a barrel to USB adapter (or make one) an even wider variety of devices can be network powered.
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