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Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Aug-21 10:06:07
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To be fair any of the AltNet providers could go bust or (more likely) get subsumed by a larger provider or another AltNet. Consolidation will happen at some point in time - probably when interest rates shift or investors get nervy.

There is lots of investment capital awash at the moment, so for now the FTTP ‘gold rush / merry go round’ continues!
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Aug-21 10:58:25
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To be fair any of the AltNet providers could go bust or (more likely) get subsumed by a larger provider or another AltNet. Consolidation will happen at some point in time - probably when interest rates shift or investors get nervy.

Reminds me of 30 years ago with cable TV smile

21 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User jpm
(committed) Thu 05-Aug-21 15:10:08
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The best thing you can probably do for your own sanity is to not bother getting into debates with people you don't care about on Facebook groups


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Standard User CarlTSpeak
(committed) Thu 05-Aug-21 15:19:08
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I will copy and paste some of this stuff onto it, but not the bit about him not knowing what he is on about smile


Yeah accurate as it is probably not a good idea. I got the vibe you weren't friendly with them so went in with both feet.

I'll clarify any more questions if I see them before they're answered.

I am badly triggered by Dunning-Kruger types so glad to slap them down. I'm as guilty of it in the past as anyone.

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Standard User CarlTSpeak
(committed) Thu 05-Aug-21 15:19:58
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LOL, He may do, that is if he does a search, he has not come back to me yet.


Ah cool. I may get a new member of the fan club soon laugh

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Main router: Mikrotik CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS.
Switches: 1 * CSS326-24G-2S+RM, 2 * CRS309-1G-8S+IN, 2 * CRS305-1G-4S+IN
All connected via Invisilight SMF, wife required subtlety, and DACs.
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My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User CarlTSpeak
(committed) Thu 05-Aug-21 15:20:42
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Reminds me of 30 years ago with cable TV smile


This.

BT Retail Full Fibre 900 // Zen Full Fibre 900 // Faelix FTTP 300
Main router: Mikrotik CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS.
Switches: 1 * CSS326-24G-2S+RM, 2 * CRS309-1G-8S+IN, 2 * CRS305-1G-4S+IN
All connected via Invisilight SMF, wife required subtlety, and DACs.
Steam Performance
My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Aug-21 17:09:31
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In reply to a post by Pheasant:
To be fair any of the AltNet providers could go bust or (more likely) get subsumed by a larger provider or another AltNet. Consolidation will happen at some point in time - probably when interest rates shift or investors get nervy.

Reminds me of 30 years ago with cable TV smile

Indeed history repeats!

Though there seem (to me) be very many more FTTP AltNets on the scene now than cable providers in the day - maybe a dozen or so, perhaps a few more . We have at least double or treble that with the latest fibre construction, many examples of multiple provider overbuild around the country.

Anyhow, the springs of the fibre internet bandwagon must surely be sagging. There seems to be a new one every week! Something will have to give sooner or later.
Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Aug-21 17:18:24
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The best thing you can probably do for your own sanity is to not bother getting into debates with people you don't care about on Facebook groups


https://xkcd.com/386/
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Aug-21 17:33:18
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https://xkcd.com/386/
This smile

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Aug-21 17:35:18
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Anyhow, the springs of the fibre internet bandwagon must surely be sagging.
Yes, I forsee some stopping when they run out of cash, before the assets are picked up by another operator. Hopefully eventually either Openreach or CityFibre will acquire and provide wholesale access.

Customers of the AltNet's need to learn the risks of the USA, when there is only one (viable) ISP in a town, they can charge what they like. The regulated wholesale market (e.g. Openreach) has in general been a good thing for the UK.

21 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
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