In reply to a post by threelegs:

Could you run the two cables up/down the wall behind a gutter downpipe to hide them?

we looked at this too. but the locations of the downpipes didn't align with line of sight to the pole

I have never had scaffolding - is there some sort of certificate provided by the scaffolders that is shared with the various trades to cover them for insurance purposes? If there is then the question would be why that can't be accepted - but I suspect it is a general rule to avoid any responsibility.

I assume there is some public liability insurance. that would definitely help explain the shear cost of it.
£1440 to be exact.
It's the first scaffolding experience I've had and I didn't think to ask for a certificate at the time.

If the engineer had said do you have a certificate for that otherwise I can't use it then I would have a definite answer by now!
it at least fly's the company flag/banner on it, so it can't be a terrible construction unless any advertisement is good advertisement

I imagine providing certs would just add paper work costs, and thus it's cheaper to train and send the engineers up less safe ladders instead... (yes i'm still bitter)

How about if the fibre went to a new pole on your property and then you ducted it to your house?

Thinking outside the box here, and depending on how long your front garden is it might be no better aesthetically than a cable coming down the front of the property. It also relies on Openreach being prepared to supply a pole.

In reply to a post by jpm:

How about if the fibre went to a new pole on your property and then you ducted it to your house?

Thinking outside the box here, and depending on how long your front garden is it might be no better aesthetically than a cable coming down the front of the property. It also relies on Openreach being prepared to supply a pole.

Interesting idea. I don't know how I'd start a conversation quite like that. Thanks

The drop wire (fibre) can be run inside and teh CSP installed in an easily accessible location. Mine is ...

Like you, when I had scaffolding up it was used by brickies, roofers, glaziers, chippies, me, squirrels and more ...

We were told "do not allow anyone to adjust it - we (scaffolders) will come back when needed. Buildners knew full well not to make changes to it. No reputable scaffolding company is going to do an unsafe installation, knowingly, and if they did, word would spread quickly.


Why theey refused? Lack of management foresight!

In reply to a post by MHC:

The drop wire (fibre) can be run inside and teh CSP installed in an easily accessible location. Mine is ...

Specifically, is yours installed internally? From pole?
When was it installed?
Did you have to do anything to get that? Or did the first engineer just do it there and then?

Idea... You use the scaffold (at your own risk !) You obtain first a length of 'Ducting' one end in your coms room the other end (securely fixed, Important) .
You place a draw rope with one end tied down in your coms room the other comes out of the duct and is long enough (plus extra) to reach the ground.

Plan Hopefully BT engineer comes next time Not Cowboys Quinn, bt chap plugs fibre in to pole end CBT the other tied to draw rope,you get in the loft and help pull it through.
As long as your loft is boarded and safe to access via stairs the BT chap should be ok to go up to splice.

BT chap will still need access to the Internal CSP and ONT to test.

Re ladder bolt is standard practice for H&S.

60m drop direct from pole.

All I did was tell them the internal routing that HAD to be followed - into loft, through conduit along loft wall, through 300mm wall to second loft, and then further along to location of existing NTE.

Installation was by a Kelly technican, actually 1 + trainee, carried out in March '21.

They arrived, looked asked a few questions and then got on with it - I threaded it ito te first conduit with them on te outside, but no issues with them.