In reply to a post by candlerb:

When Openreach eventually come around to do FTTP, they could decide to install poles - which may upset some residents!

Toob seem to be paying Openreach to install poles across town where there is no ducting. Some residents are happy (high speed), others are very annoyed.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Looking forward to what you decide to do, if anyone is running a book put me down for £10 on Plusnet FTTP

… and I’ll have a fiver each way on Luddite in the Indecision handicap at 3:30

LOL.

I am not a Luddite, if I was a Luddite then would I have a house full of Echo dots, a load of smart devices, including the smart radiator thermostats I just got. If I was Luddite i would not be bothering with streaming, new technology, don't want that, I will just get my TV via the aerial.

With fibre, I just don't see the advantage for me, I used Wireless broadband for a couple of years a few years ago as it was an advantage for me compared to the ADSL I had at the time.

I just don't need anything faster than what I have now.


I noticed yesterday that Zzoomm have taken the loop of fibre off the pole by me, so I presumed they have used it for what ever they are using it for. There have been a van with a cerry picker on parked across the road since yesterday, so either they are coming back today, which is strange since they don't work on Saturdays, or it has broken down, it is surrounded by cones.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

The "local altnets" are mostly owned or bankrolled by large infrastructure investment funds. That's where the profits, if any, will end up.

And if they don't make any profits?

Then their assets get disposed of in a fire sale to an even larger fund-backed company.

No doubt this Alt Net , if going for an overhead method of service will have their own poles and pole errection process to get these poles in place ( it’s extremely unlikely that OR are involved) in my area , Openreach contracted out their own pole installation to contract years ago ( I’ve no idea if it’s a national policy but it may well be ) , so its possible the the Alt Net use the same contract company as OR , but the poles should not be branded as BT or OR ( FWIW I saw a pole that is date stamped as 2021 and it still said ‘BT’ ) , Alt Nets can and do provide their own poles

In reply to a post by Iniltous:

FWIW I saw a pole that is date stamped as 2021 and it still said ‘BT’

Never seen any of theirs that didn't have 'BT' on them (thats not to say there isn't any)

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Then their assets get disposed of in a fire sale to an even larger fund-backed company.

Deja Vu....... the 1990's era cable networks eventually all got 'consumed' into either NTL or Telewest, and then even those two merged.

I am not a Luddite, if I was a Luddite then would I have a house full of Echo dots, a load of smart devices, including the smart radiator thermostats I just got. If I was Luddite i would not be bothering with streaming, new technology, don't want that, I will just get my TV via the aerial.

I suspect you misunderstood

“a person opposed to new technology or ways of working.”

I misread it first time too, but I think the rhetorical question "would I ..?" implies the answer "no". That is, I think the meaning is:

"if I was a Luddite then I would not have a house full of Echo dots ... [but I do]"

Edited by candlerb (Sat 10-Sep-22 11:34:00)

But for a poster so clearly obsessed with not leaking his data, and the like, the last thing you’d have in your abode is Echo Dots and smart devices happily listening to your every word, and noting your internet habits.

I’m sure we’ll not get the truth now, you’ve supplied him with an easy escape route 😄