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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Wed 05-Oct-22 00:36:56
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When you see manifold boxes fitted to the poles you'll be very close to going live.
Assuming you have poles smile


Poles here, zzoomm have already put their equipment on them, and have done so at least 3 or 4 weeks ago. Still no info about going live, not that I can change yet even if I wanted to, but a neighbour is waiting for them to go live.

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Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Oct-22 11:53:19
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Do you know where I can find the regulation or convention, whereby "telephone poles" as known by the general public, are known as "telegraph poles" by those in council planning departments and elsewhere.

Admittedly telegraph systems were in existence before telephone, but the last telegraph system, TELEX has now long gone. The ITU - International Telecommunications Union, part of the UN, referred to Direct Printing Telegraphy in relation to Telex and Teletype. Hand sent telegraphy, ie Morse has too now gone in commercial applications. (Been there done that professionally!)

Once the PSTN has gone, what will they call the poles then? wink

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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Oct-22 12:09:48
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Do you know where I can find the regulation or convention, whereby "telephone poles" as known by the general public, are known as "telegraph poles"

Ask these people: https://www.telegraphpoleappreciationsociety.org/

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Once the PSTN has gone, what will they call the poles then? wink

I'd say the Internet is closer to telegraphy than telephony, so the name can stay.


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Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 02-Jan-23 19:14:04
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Looked out the window this morning to see work being carried out on two telegraph poles opposite. Had a closer look afterwards and each now with a CBT and a coil of "cable" with a yellow stripe. Looking good! smile

Would have been even happier if the pole where our overhead copper comes from; the two poles being worked on do not have to supply that many houses, whereas "our" pole is more or less fully loaded with copper.

What I did think strange though, was the fact that today is a Public Holiday!

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Mon 02-Jan-23 19:50:20
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Looked out the window this morning to see work being carried out on two telegraph poles opposite. Had a closer look afterwards and each now with a CBT and a coil of "cable" with a yellow stripe. Looking good! smile



good, glad to hear it.

Would have been even happier if the pole where our overhead copper comes from; the two poles being worked on do not have to supply that many houses, whereas "our" pole is more or less fully loaded with copper.


Confused I am.

The pole outside my house has 12 I think copper cables, which is a fair few and if they all go fibre, that is another 12, so 22 cables from the same pole, it will look a right mess, saying that it already does

What I did think strange though, was the fact that today is a Public Holiday!

Cheers!



That it is, but some of us work it, so why not they? I presume the strikes have put them back, so with extra pay they will work the bank holiday to get it done.

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Standard User cymru123
(member) Mon 02-Jan-23 20:15:37
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Would have been even happier if the pole where our overhead copper comes from; the two poles being worked on do not have to supply that many houses, whereas "our" pole is more or less fully loaded with copper.


Confused I am.

The pole outside my house has 12 I think copper cables, which is a fair few and if they all go fibre, that is another 12, so 22 cables from the same pole, it will look a right mess, saying that it already does


Recent Openreach full fibre installations have removed the copper drop wire or replaced it with a hybrid drop wire.
Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 02-Jan-23 20:48:58
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The pole outside my house has 12 I think copper cables, which is a fair few and if they all go fibre, that is another 12, so 22 cables from the same pole, it will look a right mess, saying that it already does

Could be worse: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-messy-electrical-c...

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Mon 02-Jan-23 21:38:52
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Recent Openreach full fibre installations have removed the copper drop wire or replaced it with a hybrid drop wire.


For existing underground copper pairs would that also involve the removal of an external BT66B junction box if a hybrid optical/copper installation was to be done?
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 02-Jan-23 22:26:13
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Yes, though not always.

It might be replaced by a CSP which houses the UG copper too … but not always, as there are so many different scenarios

Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Mon 02-Jan-23 23:09:46
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Yes, though not always.

It might be replaced by a CSP which houses the UG copper too …


In my case that would certainly be a very satisfactory installation - also I guess I'll have wait and see if the existing UG copper can be replaced and it's route used for UG hybrid optical/copper.
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