I nearly joined Orange when they launched Wildfire but that was short lived.
Had Orange PCS become publicly traded on the LSE the old Orange might still have been around.
It all went pear shaped when Hans Snook left I think.
Virgin (ADSL) => Namesco => Newnet => O2 => Plusnet => Zen => Newnet => Zen Lite 8000
Note: I don't lay turf for anyone. astro or otherwise, all views and opinions expressed are my own based on experience.