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Standard User GorillaWheels
(regular) Wed 18-Jun-14 17:37:27
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Thanks XRaySpeX, I shall remove the extension wiring later tonight.

EE ADSL2+ 7.2 Mbps down / 0.92 Mbps up
Standard User GorillaWheels
(regular) Wed 18-Jun-14 18:37:13
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: eckiedoo] [link to this post]
 
Evening eckiedoo

My latest router stats are as follows, extension wiring still in till later.


Internet

Broadband Type: ADSL
Broadband State: Connected
Internet State: Connected
Time Connected: 18:21:12
Downstream Rate: 8371kbps
Upstream Rate: 1107kbps

Status

Configured Current
Line Status --- SHOWTIME
Link Type --- Fast Path
Operation Mode Automatic G992.5(ADSL2+)

Data Rate Information

Stream Type Actual Data Rate
Upstream 1107 (Kbps.)
Downstream 8371 (Kbps.)

Defect/Failure Indication

Operation Data Upstream Downstream
Noise Margin 5.7 dB 7.4 dB
Line Attenuation 21.7 dB 40.0 dB


Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End Indicator
Output Power 12.8 dBm 0.0 dBm
Fast Path FEC Correction 0 0
Interleaved Path FEC Correction NA NA
Fast Path CRC Error 3172 282
Interleaved Path CRC Error NA NA
Loss of Signal Defect 0 0
Fast Path HEC Error STR 30596 261
Interleaved Path HEC Error NA NA
Error Seconds 1114 184

Statistics

Received Cells 7020589
Transmitted Cells 775782

Bras check gave:
Data For: 01229******
Exchange: BARROW-IN-FURNESS (LCBAR)
BT Recorded Line Length to Exchange (m): 1990
BE LLU: Not Activated
Real Error: No BE LLU - (Check if exchange is full)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgcxvtb8bhkgpfy/route%20to...

This shows my house on the right and the path to pcp 64 on the left approx. 265 metres. My line comes into the house from the pole, yellow dot, and I assume goes underground to pcp 64.

GW (Dave)

EE ADSL2+ 7.2 Mbps down / 0.92 Mbps up
Standard User eckiedoo
(committed) Wed 18-Jun-14 19:28:58
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: GorillaWheels] [link to this post]
 
Evening Dave

Thanks for that posting.

Present
The ratio of your UP Attenuation to your DOWN Attenuation appears to be typical, about 1:2.

My ADSL Distance from my Exchange is 1286 Metres, compared to your 1990 Metres, so generally the slower speeds, particularly Download are not unexpected.

I note that like myself, you are on ADSL2+.

As you have been through the QLT, it is unlikely that you would see much improvement.

Regarding the Extension Wiring, you now have a good idea of what you should consider, if tackling it in any way.

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Future
As your line comes from that pole, further away from you, then the effects of that extra distance, looks around 2 times 50 Metres and say 5 metres for the pole height, this could have quite an effect on FTTC/VDSL if you head that way.

Particularly if the FTTC Cabinet is placed any significant distance away from the PCP, about 50 metres in my case.

Also minimise the distance within your house etc.

Edited by eckiedoo (Wed 18-Jun-14 19:30:26)


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 18-Jun-14 21:30:39
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: eckiedoo] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by eckiedoo:
you wouldn't want to be trying to connect a corded phone to the NTE in such situations.
Why not? You can connect any phone to the master socket, via a filter if necessary in conjunction with the router. The extension wiring has no bearing on calling 999.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 18-Jun-14 21:34:36
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: GorillaWheels] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by GorillaWheels:
extension wiring still in till later.
You won't gain much if at all. You line is capable of about 9 Meg.

BT Recorded Line Length to Exchange (m): 1990
Your attn. indicates your line is about 2.9 km. I've never believed that checker.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User eckiedoo
(committed) Wed 18-Jun-14 23:14:28
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Agreed, XraySpeX

BUT if like mine, the Master Socket is at the back of a cupboard, immediately under and hidden by a shelf, with much junk obstructing access ...
Standard User obroad
(newbie) Thu 19-Jun-14 11:02:31
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: GorillaWheels] [link to this post]
 
As someone else has pointed out already that looks to me like a "by the book" installation which should help a lot, the extension connects to the removable plate so when you use the test socket you are directly connected to the incoming line. The test socket is a perfectly good phone socket.

Personally I'm a fan of faceplate filters, the ones that screw onto the front of the master. They eliminate the need for plug-in micro-filters, and provide a clear demarcation between voice and broadband service. The newer VDSL ones have terminals for a broadband extension too.

The only real reason for not buying one would be if you can swing a free one as part of installation work?
Standard User GorillaWheels
(regular) Fri 20-Jun-14 00:26:38
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Just removed extension wiring from master socket front plate. Ever so slight increase in sync speed, like you predicted XRaySpeX.
Although out of the socket it is still in place above skirting board for now, all painted in and bracket/clipped in place, really couldn't be bother ripping it all out.
You say my line capable of about 9 Meg, well I've just got 7.44 Meg, i'm quite happy, much better than 4.2.

Broadband Type: ADSL
Broadband State: Connected
Internet State: Connected
Time Connected: 00:27:23
Downstream Rate: 8526kbps
Upstream Rate: 1112kbps


Line Status --- SHOWTIME
Link Type --- Fast Path
Operation Mode Automatic G992.5(ADSL2+)

Data Rate Information

Stream Type Actual Data Rate
Upstream 1112 (Kbps.)
Downstream 8526 (Kbps.)

Defect/Failure Indication

Operation Data Upstream Downstream
Noise Margin 5.9 dB 5.8 dB
Line Attenuation 21.7 dB 40.0 dB


Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End Indicator
Output Power 12.8 dBm 0.0 dBm
Fast Path FEC Correction 0 0
Interleaved Path FEC Correction NA NA
Fast Path CRC Error 165 0
Interleaved Path CRC Error NA NA
Loss of Signal Defect 0 0
Fast Path HEC Error STR 880 0
Interleaved Path HEC Error NA NA
Error Seconds 77 0

Statistics

Received Cells 1174642
Transmitted Cells 212122

EE ADSL2+ 7.2 Mbps down / 0.92 Mbps up
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 20-Jun-14 02:10:27
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: GorillaWheels] [link to this post]
 
You say my line capable of about 9 Meg, well I've just got 7.44 Meg, i'm quite happy, much better than 4.2.
I was talking Sync speed. You gained just 150K. More likely from timing than the work you did.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 20-Jun-14 02:28:40
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Re: Moved house and have some questions.


[re: GorillaWheels] [link to this post]
 
For fastest Sync speed always resync during daylight not at midnight. Then you'll get the 9 Meg grin.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
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