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Standard User Brutos
(newbie) Thu 14-Apr-22 18:22:56
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Moving from BT FTTP to EE FTTP 900Mbps


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Hi All,

Has anyone moved to EE FTTP recently, I would be interested to know what the experience has been like.

I have been with BT for FTTP since 2018 and its been rock solid.

I expect the experiece to be the same as they are practically the same company now.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Apr-22 23:23:16
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Re: Moving from BT FTTP to EE FTTP 900Mbps


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EE FTTP uses the exactly the same infrastucture as BT's, that of OR, as do many other ISPs.

BT Retail & EE are separate ISPs with their own products, both subsideries of the BT Group. This is unchanged since BT Group took over EE.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC => 2020: EE 40 Meg FTTC (no landline no.)

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Standard User Brutos
(newbie) Thu 21-Apr-22 12:26:32
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Re: Moving from BT FTTP to EE FTTP 900Mbps


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I went live today on EE for anyone esle who may do this move, speed is the same 920Mbps down 108Mbps up.
Network seems good so far I will continue to monitor it.

One thing that was odd is i didnt have to update username in my NGFW- Untange

Switch over completed and no need to change username/password internet worked straight away.

Anyone knows why I didnt have to change username and password?


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Standard User jpm
(committed) Thu 21-Apr-22 12:51:13
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The PPPoE details aren't actually used, authentication is done by the tags that Openreach insert.
Standard User slimj
(committed) Thu 21-Apr-22 16:20:01
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I'm on EE Fibre Max 100 (since having FTTP installed early March).

Whenever I test my speeds are always 106 / 21Mbps and latency is 5ms. No issues with the service so far.

Here's my BQM graph, if you're interested.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 21-Apr-22 19:29:37
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In reply to a post by jpm:
The PPPoE details aren't actually used, authentication is done by the tags that Openreach insert.

As per TTB running over Openreach. The PPPoE details are dummy. It will happily authenticate even with the previous ISP details loaded for PPPoE creds.
Standard User Skie
(newbie) Thu 21-Apr-22 21:59:33
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Then why on earth do they even bother with PPPOE? It's an unnecessary processing overhead
Standard User Brutos
(newbie) Thu 21-Apr-22 22:24:52
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In reply to a post by Skie:
Then why on earth do they even bother with PPPOE? It's an unnecessary processing overhead


This is the exact question thats popped into my head now, I can only assume thats because of ADSL/FTTC the actual backend systems are build in a way that everyone gets these details even if FTTP doesnt use them.
Standard User busterboy
(experienced) Wed 02-Nov-22 00:42:52
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I am with BT and had a faultless service for over two years, Is there much of a price difference moving to EE from BT.

My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User Harpy
(newbie) Wed 02-Nov-22 10:21:22
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That’s slightly concerning. I live in a block of apartments where all ONTs are located in a communal comms room with a CAT6 ethernet cable to each apartment. I presume that if cables were inadvertently swapped I could end up using the wrong FTTP connection without realising. ☹️
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Wed 02-Nov-22 11:14:42
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Openreach FTTP?

Unless of course this is some sort of “special” arrangement between your building owner and Openreach. Otherwise by rights the customer demarc. is the Ethernet port on the ONT.

Hope your patching schedules are accurate and up to date! Who maintains the copper side from the ONT?
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Wed 02-Nov-22 14:49:50
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Have you seen this room full of ONTs, or are you a Hyperoptic customer?
Standard User Harpy
(newbie) Wed 02-Nov-22 15:23:00
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It’s Openreach FTTP and there are only 5 ONTs as it’s a small block. The copper side was installed when the building was constructed and is maintained by the managing agent. The room is normally locked, but all residents have a key since electric meters are in there too.
Standard User nemeth782
(committed) Wed 02-Nov-22 20:26:16
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In reply to a post by Skie:
Then why on earth do they even bother with PPPOE? It's an unnecessary processing overhead


PPPoE really needs to die in a fire to be completely honest. Don't think it's brought any benefit to anyone in years.
Standard User jpm
(experienced) Wed 02-Nov-22 22:29:19
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It doesn't really matter IMO. Baby jumbo frames ensure that you can still push 1500-byte packets across a link assuming your ISP knows what they are doing, and if ISPs can supply Technicolor routers for free that can push PPPoE at 1Gbps then there's no excuse for 3rd-party router manufacturers to not be able to offer the same sort of performance with their PPPoE implementations.
Standard User Brutos
(newbie) Fri 29-Sep-23 22:18:32
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Just an update, I have had the service since 04/23 and it's been absolutely faultless but for one night around 2am for about 10 minutes, something seems to have gone down as I lost my public IP in my firewall. Outside of that one incident, i would highly recommend EE. I get 930/110 constantly even at busy times.
Standard User Skie
(learned) Fri 29-Sep-23 22:22:29
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Yeah I've had a solid connection with them for well over a year now and they even accidentally sent me the signing up amazon gift vouchers too many times (yay). But I can't live with them adding RPI+made up percentage each year as the price is now getting silly. Off to youfibre for me when the build in my area finishes. £20 cheaper and 900 up as well as down!
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