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Standard User nslawski09
(newbie) Tue 31-Dec-24 01:01:20
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FTTC to SOGEA 80/20


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Looking to move my landline from a EE Fibre Plus FTTC plan as in total (including call packages) it's costing over £60 a month, ridiculous, i know. I'm gonna move it to AAISP for their £1.20 a month, I don't mind PAYG, as only use it once a month for international calls home. Problem is, I would need to move my FTTC VDSL2 service (80/20) to SOGEA, however i doubt EE will do this as I've read on the BT checker that only 40/10 will be available as my area has been in a copper stop sell since 2021. I could move to community fibre, but i would rather stay with ee (no cgnat), hoping that should decrease my price back to £30. Would this be possible? Attaching BT checker below. edit: says FTTC unavailable, so i assume theres no more slots in the cabinet. Bit risky then, as someone could snatch my spot should the number be ported. Whole reason Im doing this is to save the hassle later.
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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 31-Dec-24 06:46:21
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If your area is in a stop sell exchange … then the reason you are not being offered copper based products is because of the stop sell. You should be looking at full fibre offerings.

54-46 was my number
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 31-Dec-24 09:16:24
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Re: FTTC to SOGEA 80/20


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Your checker results show that OpenReach FTTP is available. So, as Zarjaz says, you will not be able to buy a FTTC service. However, you should be able to buy a FTTP service for around £30 a month (plus phone fees as you want a phone service). EE selling 150Mbps for around £31 a month at the moment according to the ThinkBroadBand deals page (plus one off £11.99 charge).


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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Dec-24 09:42:06
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Re: FTTC to SOGEA 80/20


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In reply to a post by ian72:
EE selling 150Mbps for around £31 a month at the moment according to the ThinkBroadBand deals page

... which becomes £34 in April and then £37 a year later, so you need to do some maths to work out for yourself what the true cost is. I reckon: 13 + 4*31 + 12*34 + 8*37 = £841 for 24 months (more exactly £840.75), which is £35.03 per month.

If you don't like playing those games, then Aquiss will sell you 80/20 FTTP or SOGEA for £36 per month on a 12 month contract, with the first 6 months discounted to £18, no price rises within contract and no price hike at the end of the contract - but you need to provide your own router, and your AAISP VOIP will be on top of that.
Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 31-Dec-24 09:52:40
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Order an FTTP based service. That’s all you can do anyway 😂

As your hardly using your landline - save further by ordering a plain service - literally just the broadband no bundled voice service (off the back of the router).

Order the new service, get it installed and running. Only then put in a porting requesting on your FTTC service to port your landline number across to a third party VOIP provider like A&A or Voipfone.

Live a happy life 😅
Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(committed) Tue 31-Dec-24 10:44:19
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Yes, if FTTP is available for your area then it won't allow you to order FTTC SOGEA that's not because no slots are available.
The slots are available but Openreach doesn't allow you to order an FTTC service once FTTP is available. All the offers on any ISP website will show only FTTP packages by default.

However, in areas like that of my own I switched from TalkTalk FTTC to BT FTTC SOGEA just over 2 years. This was BT Home Essentials 2 at that time for £20 a month and the website at that time gave me the option to switch from Analogue phone service to Digital Voice while retaining the phone number. Plus received Alexa phone for free as part of the package.

I don't really care about the landline but if it is included, it is a bonus. Phone calls are free unlimitedly to both UK landline and mobile.
Community Fibre is also available here, but I also stuck with BT FTTC for the time being as I am also worried about CGNAT being a potential issue. The BT FTTC service has been excellent for me no connection drop outs for 165 days and all for £20 a month.

TalkTalk were price hiking me to £40 a month. But BT Home Essentials 2 80/20 is only £20 a month and has been that way for over 2 years since getting their service. Btw, you can also get Home Essentials 2 if you are on Universal Credit or Pension Credit. But now you won't get it for £20 a month instead it is up to £23 a month for new customers.

Only old existing customers like myself still pay £20 a month. At some point of-course this will go up.
Actually there is also Vodafone social tariff for £20 a month https://www.vodafone.co.uk/broadband/essentials-broa... Same 80/20 speeds and no early termination charges.
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 31-Dec-24 10:47:39
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I recommend Aquiss FTTP 80/20 for £18 a month (first six months) then £36 a month there after. Make sure you got your own wireless router (not from ex ISP router because it will be locked to the isp) and you also get free Static IP Address (useful for home CCTV)

I am now with Aquiss Family 80/20 service is top level. You can trust Martin on great support.

This is my speedtest with Aquiss SoGEA 80/20 https://www.speedtest.net/result/17195027186

Edited by adslmax (Tue 31-Dec-24 10:48:48)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 31-Dec-24 10:52:46
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As with others, order a basic 80/20 FTTP service - as low as £25/month.

Get it installed and running - then, port your old landline number to a VoIP provider such as VOIPIFY.net who have some very good international rates (one reson I went to them), and cancel the old copper FTTC service.

Yes, you will need something like a Gigaset N300 base for VoIP but after a couple of months you will be saving considerably.


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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 31-Dec-24 11:33:05
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In reply to a post by MHC:
As with others, order a basic 80/20 FTTP service - as low as £25/month.

Get it installed and running - then, port your old landline number to a VoIP provider such as VOIPIFY.net who have some very good international rates (one reson I went to them), and cancel the old copper FTTC service.

Yes, you will need something like a Gigaset N300 base for VoIP but after a couple of months you will be saving considerably.

... just on your last point MHC, that's of course only if the OP really wants physical handsets. You can have a mixture of physical or virtual devices to access a "landline".

We've gone all Marie Kondo here, and fixed handsets have been banished. Including my once cherished Cisco 9971-series video capable VOIP handsets!

Landlines are just apps on our phones. Shout out to Acrobits as the clear and superior winner on VoIP smartphone apps by a country mile 😎🤣
Standard User nslawski09
(newbie) Tue 31-Dec-24 13:54:56
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ye, I see that, but I also see the exception for sogea. It seems to be limited to 40/10, however I also see that sogea is to stay for now.
will ring up ee to see what they say.

Edited by nslawski09 (Tue 31-Dec-24 13:56:01)

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