Horses for courses matey...............Fact is it sells millions no matter what ?

Indeed it does.

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Why is CoD 8 so anticipated though? It's the same as the last two. Play those. Same with FIFA and the like.

Maybe this is a loaded question, but what does BF3 bring that is truly innovative compared to BF2 other than upgraded visuals (on the PC at least)?

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like it's fashionable to hate MW3 just for the sake of it.
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Oh, I've gone off BF3 too. You're right, it doesn't bring much new, if anything. At least it doesn't come out yearly though. Red Orchestra 2 is looking much more interesting at this point.

Oh, I've gone off BF3 too.

Lol! Fair enough. At least you're consistent.

Even though I don't game on the PC I have followed red orchestra a little on the review forums. Liked the bit about the enemy's reaction to damage, shooting them in the leg causing them to limp etc.
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Anyway i have been watching all the videos of the MW3 event on Gametrailers and a few other sites and one thing i will admit is Multi player does look exactly like MW2.

Nothing seems to have changed from what i have noticed apart from a few new killstreaks and perks menus...............I loved MW2 so this is not really a complaint because i will enjoy the game regardless,with Spec ops and Survival mode which will keep me happy for months.

There are a lot of moaners on the internet really having a dig at MW3 and Activision calling them lazy and all sorts of stuff i can not mention on here,still really hyped for the game but i think next time a new engine will be required especially if Battlefield reaches the heights we all expect after watching it in action.

Its still going to sell millions but after watching all that's from the show i can not help thinking many were expecting more and been totally honest it does look like MW 2.5 but i don't really care because MW1 and 2 blew me away........... and even now 2 years later i am still having a blast with MW2 ...............How many games can you say that about ?

It's fine discussing the game, I am excited about both of them, but you post the same things over and over about how you play MW2 now because it's the best game and how excited you are about it etc. I just find it a bit boring reading pretty much the same post over and over. Sorry I don't mean to sound offensive and I do enjoy coming on here because it's a small community and there are some interesting discussions, sometimes I get involved sometimes I just read I just like to see new content and new discussions and not just lingering on the same comments about the same part of the game you like. Like I say, dont wanna cause offense so I will just keep quiet in future if it grates me

Anyway, the post you made over the weekend about the review of the multiplayer, that sounds awesome. I like the idea of the kill confirmed game mode and that they have changed the noob tube and kill streaks, sounds a lot more balanced now which I think is what it was massively lacking. Like the review said, a lot of the time you're just hiding from constant chopper attacks so will be nice to see that change. That strafe attack sounds cool too with the choppers coming in and tearing the place up like an air strike on crack!

I don't mean to repeat myself but when a thread gets going and you get numerous responses about the good and the bad regarding the game i mention then its little wonder that unfortunately i repeat myself.

I am pumped up for both BATTLEFIELD [got it right this time] as you tell me its not BATTLEFIELDS ?and MW3................Again i have to mention the Killsteaks and stupid perks ruined a otherwise great game in MW2.............

I see that Infinity ward/Sledghammer have made it more of a gun game than ridiculous killstreaks even though they appear in MW3 hopefully they are more balanced and do not ruin the experience.

Shooting a bloke running at you with a full clip and a ACR only to find you get Knifed from 10 feet away.....................What was they Thinking and why did they not put this right with a patch.

My biggest worry regarding MW3 is the Glitches and Hacks that will become apparent and the fact that Infinity ward in the past were very slow to put these problems right.

If your getting Dead Island 360 version then i would not mind having a chat and a game of co/op with you matey

Shooting a bloke running at you with a full clip and a ACR only to find you get Knifed from 10 feet away.....................What was they Thinking and why did they not put this right with a patch.

That's the [censored] net code trying to lag compensate. Probably didn't get patched cos they think it's the right approach, and that those incidents are just unfortunate.
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Not Net code mate it was one of the perks..........Commando and something else,actually when you select the perk it actually says extended melee and Knife kills..............Who they Kidding.................Extended like from 10 feet away with someone running around like the fast version of Benny Hill on speed.