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Toady and Swanny....need not apply . 
Mine as of today....
Cod Advanced Warfare .....yeah I'm a sucker 
Far cry 4 .....My most anticipated game of 2015.
The Evil within ....Should be with me Monday lunchtime .
Dragon Age ....[ just added this after watching some vids]
Little Big Planet 3..... Not pre/ordered possible trade in for this...
And that concludes my 2015 game list ,might add this Project Cars that you are all raving about but it won't be a pre/ order I will wait for the review outcome for this because after all how many driving games can you have,especially when they are not really my type if game .
So it's going to have to be jaw dropping and mind blowing for me to commit to this purchase.
GTA 5 redux for Playstation 4 May be in the quiet lack lustre months in 2015 but not high on my agenda.
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Cod Advanced Warfare.....maybe, but definitely not in 2014.
Project Cars.....most likely.
Far Cry 4.....pre ordered already.
I doubt I'll go back to GTAV though. No more re-masters for me I think. Metro Redux is a good game but nowhere near next gen. TLOU re-mastered is brilliant and I doubt anybody will be able to top those visuals in a re-master, so new titles only from now on..
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Yeah I see little point bringing older games like GTA5 to the new consoles ,we need new IPs and not the likes of Metro Redux which to be honest is not that exciting or even good in the graphics department even on current gen.
I just think its a quick and easy buck to make from less adventurous and lazy developers and publishers,after all I would hazard a guess it would take not much than 6 months to polish a previous console game .
Besides why would you possibly buy a game like GTA5 on your new system when the likes of Far Cry 4 and Dragon Age are released on basically the same day.
Unless you are a avid GTA5 fan then it's something I would consider picking up when the drought hits just before next summer,personally I have seen a lot of that game and although I admit it's dam good and the production values are high I'm not really that interested in playing this massive open world game when I have virtually already seen it.
Besides I don't think they are going to make it look that much better .
Edited by time2die (Sun 12-Oct-14 17:33:45)
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I'm not 100% sure on the dates on all my games so I'll just list all the games I'm looking at getting
Halo : Master Chief collection
Halo 5
Star Wars Battlefront
The Division
Final Fantasy XV
Dying Light
Elder Scrolls Online (providing the co-op is decent)
Rise Of Tomb Raider
F1 game
Dragons Age
Assassins Creed (depending on co-op)
COD AW
The Evil Within
Far Cry 4 (not 100% sure yet, I got bored with 3rd one quite quickly)
Quantum Break
Batman AK
Rainbow 6 Siege
Mirrors Edge 2
Metal Gear Solid 5
Not 100% sure on all of them but those are the ones Im most interested in and can think of off the top of my head.
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Was talking just this year really but a lot on your list will also be on mine
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not very big.
currently probably
dragon age 3 - pc/ps4? not sure which, may get both. depends if I buy ps4.
ff13-2 for pc
ff13-3 for pc
ff15 - depends if I get ps4
watchdogs, probably via ps4 bundle.
driveclub - if I get ps4
ps4 is been stubborn in price drops I find it hard to justify £300+ on a console which in 2015 I think will only have one exclusive I want to play, ff15. It becomes more likely if the pc version of dragon age 3 is a bad port.
I listed driveclub which is another exclusive but I dont want that game as much as ff15, just I would buy it as it looks good and to get more value out the console.
Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 13-Oct-14 03:51:31)
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You can spend £300 on a decent Graphic card for a PC so £300 for a new console without the hassle of upgrading [apart from a hybrid hard drive ] Optional ? then thats small change.
And Drive Club is pure Eye Candy and handles magnificent apart from the network code issues which are a real pain in the backside.
There are a lot of games on your list depending on a Playstation 4���Go treat yourself and stop penny pinching
Edited by time2die (Mon 13-Oct-14 07:43:39)
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Was talking just this year really but a lot on your list will also be on mine
Like most games it would seem this year a lot of them got pushed back, I'm not even sure when each of them are down to be released now so I just put the ones I currently have on my list.
I'm sure 1 or 2 may make 2014 lol.
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You can also spend £80 on a decent graphics card for a pc, so £80 for a new console without the hassle of upgrading is still in the realms of fantasy.
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£80 doesn't buy a good graphics cards with the demands of ultra high good looking PC games and you know it
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AC: Unity
Farcry 4
Shadow of Mordor
COD Advanced Warfare (not bought a COD game for about 3 years, but going to give this a go I think)
Evil within
Not quite sure when I will get time to play all of these though! Luckily our work closes over Christmas for 2 weeks so I will try and make a good dent in them then. Hopefully Evil Within is something I can play with the Mrs so that I can play that on nights I spend time with her 
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Yes it does, and you know it
Edited by deleted (Mon 13-Oct-14 12:48:44)
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Some of the top Radian and NVIDEA cards for a true PC gamer that wants the resolution and the graphically beauty to go with it cost £500 Plus��Thats a serious PC Gamer and one i admire  .
Now i look forward with baited breath with how you going to build me the top of the range PC for £150
Edited by time2die (Mon 13-Oct-14 15:00:20)
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I have never spent £300 on a gpu tho. I find that crazy as well. The top end GPU's you thinking off are used by people playing at 4k, multi monitor etc. A circa £150 GPU can play 1080p comfortably.
My current GPU costed £120.
But there is a clear difference, if I buy a new GPU it doesnt only play new games. So my £120 purchase helps in old and new games, I have a lot more than 2 games for my pc and it also even helps in desktop performance as so much stuff is offloaded to the GPU these days.
The PS4 has no BC which makes it very hard for me to justify buying. As I said before if it had BC, I would already have got it and put the PS3 aside.
By the way I did forget 2 games 
FF type 0 HD next gen console exclusive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Type-0
Next kingdom hearts game also next gen exclusive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_III
So its now 4-5 games I would be buying for.
Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 13-Oct-14 15:25:11)
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Here you go, and I save you £40 : linky. Actually this one is even better : linky
And what is a "true PC gamer" ? A false console gamer ? A true politically correct gamer ? A policeman who also likes gaming ?
Edited by deleted (Mon 13-Oct-14 15:37:20)
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There isn't anything that really interests for the end of 2015. I may get Doom 4. Or I may not. The same with Battlefield: Hardline.
As for for the end of 2014 - I might get Defense Grid 2 in a sale. Borderlands 3 -maybe too...
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Me in my PC years
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You'll be wanting one of these then. Dont spend too long wallowing in nostalgia though.
Edited by deleted (Mon 13-Oct-14 19:21:07)
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When the PS4 drops to <£300 including a game this is my Maybe list
AC: Unity
Shadow of Mordor
Dragon Age
Driveclub
Far Cry 4 (not 100% sure yet, as I never got around to finishing 3. It got boring)
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Here you go, and I save you £40 : linky. Actually this one is even better : linky
Refurbed [censored] desktops with integrated graphics? And a Dell at that?
Give me a break.
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Far Cry 3 didn't bore me for one single minute.
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He won't admit it nelly that a real gamers PC rig with all the dogs dangles would cost the price of 5 Playstation 4 s and he knows it but he is in denial.
If you asked him how much he spent on his PC with all his video editing stuff and everything else past 24 months he more than likely could have bought a Xbox One,Playstation 4 and a Nintendo Wii U and still had some change.
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Thats way to advanced for you Toady
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I nearly finished it. Something better must have come along and I left it. Did have another look but had lost interest in it. Hopefully FC4 will be better
Too be honest I think I'm getting bored of FPS. Never thought that would happen but after 15 years or so I guess it was going to happen
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Timey-whiney didn't specify it had to be new. Once you put in a decent £80 card, all the PS4 owners would be nothing but goo, due to all the drooling they would be doing.
5.6Ghz processor is something that all console owners would sell their doorstops for.
Edited by deleted (Tue 14-Oct-14 01:17:33)
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That's why I would have to help you use it - like finding the power switch or the letter "A". Don't worry - I have plenty of experience helping computer novices...
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Only someone with more money than sense would buy any computer that costs 5 PlayStation 4's - for that money you could buy a Cray computer.
People with sense and taste pop along to eBuyer and get computer there - for less that 1 PlayStation 4, with some change left to post a smug selfie on their Facebook page
Edited by deleted (Tue 14-Oct-14 01:28:11)
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for me sub £250 is the magic number. or £300 bundled with either ff15 or dragon age 3.
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Timey-whiney
You have a tendency to act up when people don't agree with you, but it doesn't make you right.
Your first links were utter nonsense and as a self proclaimed PC guru, you know it. Those Duos wont get anywhere near the consoles. As for your ebuyer claims, you won't match Xbox/ps4 performance on the 500 quid models. The 900 quid models will be more comparable. They won't necessarily do it quietly and certainly not as efficiently, which is the new world order toady, you'll need to embrace it soon enough. And you will still be here when unified architecture becomes the norm in PCs too and no doubt touting it's superiority.
But optimisation means the new consoles will still be snapping closely at PC heels for a few years to come, for all except the most expensive gaming rigs. If I had a grand to spend I might be tempted to build a gaming rig, but I wouldn't waste my time trying to do it for £500.
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Sub £250 is years away I suspect. £300 is more reasonable but not with those games for a year at least. They're selling too well too expect a price reduction any time soon.
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Here endeth the fan-boy lesson...
Sub £500 computers are just as capable of running anything the PS4 can do (and more besides), just as well (and cheaper too) - and you well know it.
Edited by deleted (Tue 14-Oct-14 12:36:18)
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There are not any Fanboys on here just the likes of a few that prefer PC Gaming and make ridiculous claims at what you can build PC wise on a small budget.
Anybody that seriously loves gaming and wants not even the best PC Rig is looking at a grand plus for what I would call just about a decent rig.
7 years ago I bought a custom PC from Scan Computors and it cost nearly 2 grand,within months the 2 graphics cards in the system which were no slouches were struggling in playing even the less demanding games,within a year the thing was useless ,slow had to add more ram ,had to chuck the twin graphics cards and buy others.
If I was seriously going to go back to PC gaming and I had money to burn I wouldn't hesitate in spending £5000 and even that is not the dogs dangles.
I have seen custom PCs on Scan for £10,000 ,obviously this is for the severe die hard and lottery winners,but if money was no object and I wanted the Ultimate then £1000 would buy 2 graphics cards and I would go from there.
I'm not saying that a Grand doesn't buy you something most would be proud of and would have great performance,I'm talking avid Gamers that want to see something with the highest settings and resolution which hardly taxes there system.....and I would be the later.
I'm not one for having a bog standard system and set up,never have been and never will...
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Bet you any money the PC you use cost 4 times that price....be honest.....add it all up.
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I had money to burn I wouldn't hesitate in spending £5000 and even that is not the dogs dangles.
I've got a bridge to sell for £5000 - would you like to buy that too ?
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My computer is a Zoostorm Desktop PC AMD A8 5500 3.2Ghz APU 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz Ram 2TB HDD AMD Radeon HD 7560D Graphics up to 4GB graphics system memory mATX case with DVDRW No OS for £269.99
With an upgrade to 16GB it comes to £389, to which the sale of my previous computer needs to be deducted to which it comes under £300 (probably around £290). Using the graphics card from the previous computer, so no need to spend anything there (and it is still great - and wont need to be replaced for a few years yet)
Which is a fair bit of saving over a console... Thank you, thank you very much!
Edited by deleted (Tue 14-Oct-14 14:07:01)
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If you had a load of money to burn Toady would you be sitting there with that underpowered PC that you claim cost Peanuts���.I think not ?
And the answer to your question ��.Is the bridge up to aqua marine standard and can it be shifted across water easily Person
Im talking money no object here not normal everyday people ?
Edited by time2die (Tue 14-Oct-14 15:59:34)
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underpowered
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa.
If you had a load of money to burn Toady would you be sitting there with that underpowered PC that you claim cost Peanuts���.I think not ?
Of course not - there was one that is slightly more expensive - but no sane person would buy anything really expensive.
Edited by deleted (Tue 14-Oct-14 17:01:16)
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well I'm Insane aint i
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Sub £500 computers are just as capable of running anything the PS4 can do (and more besides), just as well (and cheaper too) - and you well know it. A £900 PC might be, not the crud you are linking to.
If you think that those duo's are capable, then you are either stupid of trolling Toad. And even if you could find the room in there for a bigger graphics card, you would need a bigger fan, more than likely a bigger power supply (thats if you can find a free slot to begin with). All of which are pointless unless you change the motherboard as nothing with the multiple cores required will fit on there. Unless of course you want to trawl eBay for second hand or out of production CPUs. And even then I doubt you'll find anything with 6 cores.
I know that good PCs are more capable than the consoles. I also know that those who think it can be done for £500 have some sort of point they feel the need to prove. But your links are nonsense and you know it.
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I couldn't possibly comment
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Go on .....Please do
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It would be quite rude to do so....
However, I could reply to both yourself and mrnelsters ramblings in one go : If you want to spend large wodges of cash on a slightly shinier logo for your computer, I just have this to say.
Edited by deleted (Tue 14-Oct-14 20:52:22)
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It would be quite rude to do so....
However, I could reply to both yourself and mrnelsters ramblings in one go : If you want to spend large wodges of cash on a slightly shinier logo for your computer, I just have this to say. What you think a core duo can do is laughable. Why dont you back up your
statements with some proof instead of acting like a 14 year old.
There's plenty of information out there to prove just how difficult it is to match the consoles for £500. For £8-900 it can be done more easily. I know it won't be done with a core duo with integrated graphics for two reasons.
1. Because I have an old one in my office
2. Nobody would be cretinous enough to bother trying
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No more further to add your honour ���..case Dismised on diminished responsibility and Toady Committed to the Asylum
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are you trying to suggest the ps4 has gpu power equivalent to a £1000 gpu?
In terms of processing power its gpu is probably similar to something in the £150 range, but this gpu is more powerful. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-xfx-radeon-hd-787... £112 inc vat. Not sure why people are trying to pretend the ps4 is some uber powerful machinery. The ps4 is not directly comparable tho due to having an unusual configuration with its 8 gig of gddr5. Extra gddr5 doesnt add processing power but does allow larger textures to be used particularly unoptimised textures as seen in watchdogs.
The rest of a pc can be built for under £380. To keep it under £500.
Edited by Chrysalis (Wed 15-Oct-14 03:30:36)
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Not sure why people are trying to pretend the ps4 is some uber powerful machinery. Nobody has suggested that at all.
Somebody had suggested however that an old Dell desktop with integrated graphics is more powerful and that it could be upgraded. It isn't and it can't. I stated quite clearly that it is difficult to buy a comparative machine for £500 and certainly won't better the PS4 at that price. It's much easier to do so for £1000, but the improvement isn't going to be substantial. That would cost an awful lot more again.
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are you trying to suggest the ps4 has gpu power equivalent to a £1000 gpu?
In terms of processing power its gpu is probably similar to something in the £150 range, but this gpu is more powerful. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-xfx-radeon-hd-787... £112 inc vat. Not sure why people are trying to pretend the ps4 is some uber powerful machinery. The ps4 is not directly comparable tho due to having an unusual configuration with its 8 gig of gddr5. Extra gddr5 doesnt add processing power but does allow larger textures to be used particularly unoptimised textures as seen in watchdogs.
The rest of a pc can be built for under £380. To keep it under £500. .
Toady has a supporter Not surprised it Chrysalls .
Toady is a Console Basher mate and he likes giving us facts and figures that don't add up to anyone remotely interested in PC Gaming.
Edited by time2die (Wed 15-Oct-14 08:43:55)
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I'm not clicking on your links
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Awww..
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I think both consoles and pc's have their own merits.
PC its customisation, fast loading times.
Consoles its stability, and the fact games are usually using a console as its primary platform which makes a big difference as we seen with watchdogs and other games.
Consoles with next gen also is the built in features for recording, sending to twitch, cloud saves etc. as well.
As I have commented in the past even tho consoles have weaker hardware, dev's perform what is seen as miracles on consoles and the reason is they only have to optimise for one bit of hardware and can focus on it which is why often console ports to pc dont work optimally as they just ported but not optimised, and the 360 vs ps3 debate that went on over the years the primary platform for the game would often perform better with the platform with the port would perform worse, so e.g. final fantasy games primary platform was the ps3, and all the ff13 games run way worse on the 360 than the ps3.
So whilst a 7870 hd is more powerful than whats in the ps4, if you tried to play a ps4 game in a pc with a 7870 hd it would probably perform worse due to it been a port if that makes sense.
Edited by Chrysalis (Wed 15-Oct-14 15:46:08)
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There are benefits to being 100% certain that the hardware is the same in every device. You can write all sorts of code that takes specific advantage whereas on PC you would have to do bespoke code for any number of hardware combinations.
I have always liked the keyboard and mouse controls of a PC but am just beginning to be converted to console. I have a very nicely spec'd PC for gameplay but it hasn't been turned on for a few months now (although I am reluctant to get rid of it in case I change my mind again and go back to PC).
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And that's why I'm a Console gamer......Horaahh
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I refuse as I know there are some sarky remark or video to go with them....
Besides I might get upset and it may bring a tear to my eye .
About time we went back in time in your Tardis isn't it Toady and you showed us one of your retro videos you know how much we all miss them . 
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As if I would give a sarcastic remark. Me ? Little old moi ? Give a sarky reply ? I'm shocked...
Sorry. Couldn't keep a straight face there.
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Brute force is not the future. When PCs really start to embrace multi-threading in the next few years, we will see huge leaps again. The push for ever greater transistor density has masked the ever diminishing generational increase in actual core speed. Concurrent workloads are the future.
In this thread apples are being compared with oranges as usual.
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Lemons.....you mean
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Well one thing for sure mate you got a good sense of humour and you like to dish it but you can also take it and I like that in a person.....
Think we been generally be winding each other up for a fair few years now ,but you know deep down Timeys always Right
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Well said matey, it's safe to say on other forums someone would have spat their dummy out by now with all the banter flying about lately!!!
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Yeah there are a good half dozen posters on here ,you included Jorkila that have a laugh and a joke and don't take it all to seriously ....
Got to have a little bit of a laugh haven't you,and Good Heavens Swanny and Toady's posts are friggin hilarious
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I can't believe people on a games forum are saying this should be kept light. Gaming is a very serious part of life (possibly the most serious) and obviously there is a right and wrong answer.
So, anyone using consoles is wrong and should move immediately over to a PC - consoles are rubbish and everyone using one should be immediately locked up for crimes to society.
Ah - just remembered I bought that console a few weeks ago... Although obviously not the right one as you will clearly tell me the PS4 is superior in all ways and yet still I bought an XBone (although I think that is more because it can be shortened to XBone which sounds like it could be a bit rude).
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Its a little bit of console v PC banter,sorry Ian you made a Mistake and bought the Xbox one after all Microsoft could do with your help and support
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Well, if I am removing my Microsoft funding by not using a Windows PC then the least I can do is get the XBone to make up for it. I would hate to see MS floundering and losing money.
Never know, I may fund Sony at some point in the future if I get properly into the console gaming thingy. But the PS4 doesn't work with my remote for playing bluray and I do quite enjoy playing Forza Horizon 2 (although not playing that often - need to finish watching West Wing to free up some time).
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And Sony could do with a bit more financial assistance from you too... Why not buy a few PS4, to make their bank balance a bit healthier ?
Even better, be a friend to Nintendo and buy some of their stuff - no-one else is, so you'll be unique. More than usual too!
Edited by deleted (Thu 16-Oct-14 15:04:03)
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Obviously Toady you don't read to well�..I have a Nintendo Wii U Mate Just like i have every other console.
I don't just talk about it i actually buy them
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If I could afford a top end PC with a huge 4k screen I might be tempted, but the wife and kids always seem to have other ideas.
That said, I doubt I've the patience to either build or maintain one.
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Toad will build you a high end PC for $5 �.
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Sounds like you dont have enough then, so buy, buy, BUUUUYYYY
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Only games left to buy....I could go down the old fashioned Retro Route and buy a PC ,but that's so old hat I don't think I will bother....
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Anyway....what's on your games list for the rest of this year......come on I like a good old laugh
More than likely something I played on the Nes 25 years ago
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Have you still got it then ?
My, oh my...
Deary me!
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How many more times will I click your links thinking it just might be something different
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Advanced warfare day zero edition pre-ordered for £32 from the HK store
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Pick a number, and that will be IT
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I'm still on the fence because of the bouncing around. Not really sure whether or not I'd like it.
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No need to worry with your connection it be more a Hop,Skip and a Jump and not a bounce
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Thats why i don't bother���..Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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No need to worry with your connection it be more a Hop,Skip and a Jump and not a bounce Touch�!!!
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Along with the fact that you won't be able to get online either
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Thats a fair point You little devil you
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