Nelly's Far Cry 4 Initial Thoughts.....

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Edited by mrnelster (Mon 17-Nov-14 07:20:53)

Timeys are £4.99

Edited by time2die (Mon 17-Nov-14 12:12:28)

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A home for the more discerning game connoisseur.

Shareplay tokens start at £5-00.

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Thats Swanny out then unless you to a Bog Of offer or half price deal.

I'm getting it anyway so stick your token up your Khyber

Pass

For those of you not privileged enough to receive pics via PSN message (and those that probably couldn't wait for the poxy things to refresh ) I can confirm the game looks fantastic! The first time I was left alone it felt like I was Johnny R in First Blood. Whoever said the environment is not as pretty as FC3's tropical island is an idiot.

There has been some dozy AI and one NPC walking in mid air so far but I'm enjoying it too much to be overly critical yet. The dead body rag doll physics are really, really good and although I've never enjoyed hiding bodies before (I'm looking at you Splinter Cell) this time is different. You can loot your victim, but if you hide the body you will automatically loot as you pick him up. I've been making piles of bodies and leaving them on the road/riverbank. That'll learn 'em that nelly won't be messed with and is generally good housekeeping in any event.

The environment is reactive too. Brushing through the bushes actually moves them realistically and if you shoot through the trees, the branches are moved aside by your shots.

The default driving mechanic is awful, the left stick doing all, left/right/forward/reverse. The trouble is that the vehicles are so sensitive to drive (which makes them great fun on the mountain passes) that you end up all over the place. Sensibly they have included a "classic" option in the vehicle control menu. Well done Ubisoft for a change!

Animals are indeed far more aggressive. When armed only with a bow and arrow, I've been done over by the wild boar more than any other animal. You can (perhaps unrealistically) bait an animal in, anywhere, anytime. The good news is he doesn't kill the victims straight off, he mauls them one after another. While they're kept busy you can smash them up too. Then when they're all dead he will turn his attention on you, which makes you feel a tad guilty, but at least replaces the bait you used in the first place!

I had a ton of fun with this game last night and I haven't been anywhere near an outpost yet....or an elephant


The only bad news is that tokens have now gone up to £7-50 a piece.

Why would they pay you any money when they can get them of Timey for free

Not done a outpost��..Are you for real or waiting on Timeys help

I expected far more from your initial thoughts of the game as you don't really say a lot to be honest.

The default driving mechanic is awful, the left stick doing all, left/right/forward/reverse. The trouble is that the vehicles are so sensitive to drive (which makes them great fun on the mountain passes) that you end up all over the place. Sensibly they have included a "classic" option in the vehicle control menu. Well done Ubisoft for a change!

Well been a Drive Club owner I'm not surprised

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

For those of you not privileged enough to receive pics via PSN message (and those that probably couldn't wait for the poxy things to refresh mad) I can confirm the game looks fantastic! The first time I was left alone it felt like I was Johnny R in First Blood. Whoever said the environment is not as pretty as FC3's tropical island is a Swanny

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Nothing wrong with being a Swanny

You will still have them tokens left way after you have finished the game mate,it's just a gimmick and pretty pointless add on if you ask me.....

Because I just adore this game last night I bought the seasons pass,this game will get total dedication from me for weeks possibly months and I want every single bit of extra content on offer even though I'm only about 10% through the game after about 7 hours....

This is going to sound daft and it's not a criticism of the game,the map just has so much to do and see you can get totally lost in the game and achieve very little.

Last night I played it for approx 3 hours and added about 1.5% to my overhaul total,so how this is completed in 10/12 hours is anyone's guess,only way possible would be if you ignored everything else and just went from story mission to story mission....

2hrs 25 minutes and 4.24% done lol

This game is immense!!!

Point is do you like it...

Great game matey, just played a couple hours and managed to achieve quite alot!!

Rode an elephant,hovercraft and a gyrocopter not forgetting falling to my death trying out my wingsuit

Managed to liberate a couple outposts and unlocked another radio tower while I was at it!!

Boy are those Rhino's tough skinned!!

Have you taken out any of the royal delivery trucks yet?

Yeah mate i have,as for the Rhinos ,nothing C4 doesn't take care of.

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Great game matey, just played a couple hours and managed to achieve quite alot!!

Rode an elephant,hovercraft and a gyrocopter not forgetting falling to my death trying out my wingsuit

Managed to liberate a couple outposts and unlocked another radio tower while I was at it!!

Boy are those Rhino's tough skinned!!

Have you taken out any of the royal delivery trucks yet?

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Check out my Video of Timey taking care of Rhino Jorkila�.Jump to 6.45.

How to deal with Rhinos

I don't know how you can play with that music playing

In reply to a post by Lt_Swan:

I don't know how you can play with that music playing

That's exactly what I was thinking. I turned it off after an hour or so.

Good vid mate.

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that you were searching the side of the road for the body of that animal you ran over?

If so, a little tip. If you've actually killed them a little black x appears on the mini map to show you the spot. Especially useful when you C4 a pack of dogs, as they get launched!

It's music in the game it's not my music......Whatever it is I like it.....

I was testing the up loading video to YouTube mate,I would like to upload the clips in the order I make them to be honest ,when you upload it seems to just let you send your last 15 minutes you have played ,unless I'm not seeing it all correctly that's how I am seeing how the upload works..

Have you tried some of the map editor user generated maps mate,you could spend hours on that alone......I wonder if 2 people having the same game the co/op works better than the token gesture .

Yeah mate the x on the map,to be honest mate at the time I forgot about it but I did notice that the x marks the spot Frag has had the game since Wednesday but has been away,he will be on later this evening but unfortunately it will have to be PVP if we want to play together .

Anyway he can not play 2 player co/op until he has done some story missions ...

Yea in game music. It's a terrible idea on any game except GTA where it's just on the radio
I had the music on in FC, it really doesn't suit the game

I'm two hours in, rescued the little girl from the burning house last night

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In reply to a post by jorkila:

Great game matey, just played a couple hours and managed to achieve quite alot!!

Rode an elephant,hovercraft and a gyrocopter not forgetting falling to my death trying out my wingsuit

Managed to liberate a couple outposts and unlocked another radio tower while I was at it!!

Boy are those Rhino's tough skinned!!

Have you taken out any of the royal delivery trucks yet?

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Check out my Video of Timey taking care of Rhino Jorkila�.Jump to 6.45.

How to deal with Rhinos

Nice video, game looks real nice

And then went back to GTA i see

Had a quick hour this evening but got home quite late from Shrewsbury so i wasn't really in the mood.

Its sensational in my books Trance.

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Its sensational in my books Trance.

Couldn't get on tonight 'cos of guests. Itching to get on tomorrow.

Yeah i gathered . its a little bit anti social isn't it loading a game up when your friends or family around.

I am really loving this game, it's great. It plays the same as Far cry 3 which is fine with me, I think now I'm playing it on next gen and I've upgraded to a much better LED TV it looks extremely vibrant. I've done 7.9% so far in 2 hours 30, but it feels like all I've done is wander around doing random stuff.

My favourite things so far are riding the elephants, the gyrocopters and the outposts

I had to rescue 4 hostages yesterday but couldn't be stealthy enough to save all four so thought I'd come back later when I had some better weapons but it wouldn't let me, as soon as I started walking away it told me I would fail the mission. The best I could do then was let two of the hostages die

Don't like being forced to do missions :/

7.9% is quite a lot in just 2 hours so i think you are doing more of the story missions than the side quests ?

I have been on it 9 hours in total and only completed 14%.

5 hours 22 mins and 8.5%

I wish they would stop firing their guns off and screaming Kyrat is free. It's scares off the prey when I'm hunting
And blowing up rhinos with C4 is a bad idea, it ruins the skin
Killed the first one with a shotgun but decided to kill the 2nd with C4 as it looked easier :/

10 hrs + and 13.94%

I [censored] about a lot!

Blow the C4 while the rhino isn't too close and it won't ruin the skin. You may need a few extra bullets though.

Nope I have only done 9 of 32 story missions at the minute, I played it again for a few hours yesterday and am up to 19% now. With sandbox games I tend to just do most of the side quests first then play a lot of the story in one hit. I have been mainly collecting chests, uncovering question marks, taking outposts and taking towers.

Sandbox games are my favourite kind of game, so I kind of know the score now. I always buy the maps at the start, always attack each area in a systematic way e.g. only moving on from a zone once I have done everything there. Perhaps it's a little bit of OCD in me haha

The rhinos hit hard!! I really like riding the elephants and smashing up a jeep full of people, especially when they all come in to attack one of your existing outposts haha.

9 of the story missions,I've done 5

You can't have crafted many upgrades then?

I try to be sensible but if I'm driving flat out and I see something that screams jump, I just cant help myself!

Systematic is good, but it's a fine line between that and robotic. I like to take it all in. It's taken me 10 hours to do those 9 missions and some upgrading. It's not a race.

I have completed the weapons holster and am onto the last upgrade for the syringe holder and a couple of others. Some of them I have only done one upgrade on so far such as the bait bag and the heavy ammo, but I don't tend to use them a lot so not my priority at the moment! I wanted to be able to hold 4 weapons and as many syringes as possible quickly so that I could have all of the tools available when attacking the outposts.

I don't race through it, I really enjoy taking it all in too as I say I just play a lot of these kind of games so I do a lot of the collecting part whereas a lot of people just do side missions and main missions and wouldn't bother with things like collecting the masks, collecting the letters etc. You tend to find with a Ubisoft sandbox game that about 50 to 60% of the progression is the story, then the rest is all of the collectibles and side missions... Which is the part I really like!

Yeah, I like the side missions best to be honest, but the story is ok too. Pagan Minn as a character has been getting stick from the gaming press. I don't think they're justified, but they always need to find more stuff to moan about I suppose. That's the review business.

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Yeah, I like the side missions best to be honest,

Same here

Hurks redemption,keys to Kyrat.

Well I just been watching campign play, this does look I might give it a shot, seems better than other FPS games for single player, but wow multiplayer looks a bore.

The streamer finished the campaign then spent 10 minutes on multiplayer, looks way too hard for my liking on multiplayer. Basically the streamer was fine on the campaign but was just getting killed in a split second without even seeing the enemy, the skill and intensity obviously way higher which I dont like.

Sadly this seems to be the trend in modern western games, make it so can die very easily and the requirement to win without getting hit.

Nice one mate.

Did it work for you? Did you get the harpoon gun?

Ive played the multiplayer and its brilliant and addictive,the co/op is where its suppose to really shine when it actually works.

Myself and Nelly can not get into each others games and have tried on countless occasions only to get errors constantly,so we roped our Farmer friend in Swanny last night and both invited him in to a co/op game which worked straight away so we have a weird dilemma here and haven't got a clue why 2 of us just can not get into each others games which is a real disappointment .

I'm not sure mate if i have even used the codes,i may have used one so i will have to check on the purchases menu or try them both again.

My real concern is finding why you and myself can not connect and play co/op together which may prompt a email to Ubisoft.

Edited by time2die (Tue 25-Nov-14 11:21:14)

That was great fun even though there was a hit and run driver on the loose :/
Strange that you and Nelly can't get it on

I lost my internet connection at 12 which was probably a good thing on a monday night
I did still manage to liberate another post before going to bed. Ellys are great for killing Rhinos

That was great fun even though there was a hit and run driver on the loose :/

You've only got yourself to blame.

Bend over in front of nelly's ride, you're gonna get rammed. It's inevitable...

In reply to a post by time2die:

My real concern is finding we you and myself can not connect and play co/op together which may prompt a email to Ubisoft.

Do it.

Why has Pagan Min been getting stick in the press? I've been oblivious to it to be honest, I saw the thing about them moaning about him being all in pink.

I don't find the story in this game particularly great, Pagan Min comes out with some fairly funny lines over the radio but the general story of the first few missions so far hasn't sucked me in. But I'm not really bothered about that as the gameplay is brilliant

When has a FPS story been brilliant,its all about the action and Far Cry 4 shines a very bright shining light,anybody that says it doesn't is a complete and utter fool and he knows nothing about FPS or doesn't play them.

Yes its the same as Far Cry 4 but its tons better and plays and looks better,and just out of interest Jaxx have you tried joining a friends co/op.

For some strange reason myself and Nelly can not get into each others games but we are fine when inviting Swanny.

Even this is a total chore and frustrating mess trying to contact Ubisoft ,when you click on the contact tag it takes you to the platform,then it gives you possible reasons and suggestions with little in the way of replying.

I have seen a few with similar issues on far Cry 4 forums,but only a few and i feel i may have to reinstall the game or something.

Apparently the latest version is 1.2 so we need to check that,and there is the possibility that one of us for some strange reason or another has a different version to the other which would explain why we can not get into each others game.

i know that mine and yours is set to auto update and when i switch on my playstation 4 it prompts me that there is a update or i can see in the notifications that a game update has been downloaded and installed.

Personally its a last resort to delete and reinstall the game,especially if i lose where i am at present after 9 hours,if it sorted the issue out i would be more than happy to do it as i love the game so much it wouldn't be that much of a big deal.

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When has a FPS story been brilliant,its all about the action and Far Cry 4 shines a very bright shining light,anybody that says it doesn't is a complete and utter fool and he knows nothing about FPS or doesn't play them.

Yes its the same as Far Cry 4 but its tons better and plays and looks better,and just out of interest Jaxx have you tried joining a friends co/op.

For some strange reason myself and Nelly can not get into each others games but we are fine when inviting Swanny.

Has everyone got a type 1 nat?, A friend had a router which for whatever reason wouldn't allow him to have a open nat (even when dmz and ports were opened, said it was doing it but obviously something was up), He often needed a guy with an open nat (type 1) to act as a bridge between him and his mate to play a game (this was before FC4).
I only ask as a lot of people don't realise that a lot of routers that hand out internal IP addresses for the consoles etc have a lease time and when that expires they could give out a different IP address and then the DMZ or open port will be on the old IP address of the console and not the new changed one.

The 3 of us checked last night and as far as we are aware the correct NAT was type 2 which all of us were.

Funny thing is Swanny can come into my game when i invite him and also Nelly can get him in also,problem arises when either myself or Nelly tries it and it constantly fails,so it works in a fashion but not correctly.

I was hoping that for some strange reason we had different patches but since we can both get Swanny in game thats not the case.

My NAT is type 1

Interesting......... I read earlier that someone with a similar issue changed his NAT to 1 and then all was dandy........

Swanny I asked you for the settings last night and you said your NAT was type 2 .....

Anyway I'm not sure you can actually change your NAT,isn't it automatic thing,can not see this in the HomeHub 5 or on the Playstation 4....

Timely calling Nelly........can you change your NAT matey

Anybody with a suggestion let me know .....

Edited by time2die (Tue 25-Nov-14 19:44:23)

He did say it was Nat 1 mate.

Maybe it's a Plusnet/BT thing?

Well how stupid is that then mate if that's the case......NAT 1 is very very unsecure and NAT should be TYPE 2, even when you put it in DMZ and allocate Playstation network ip it still only changes to TYPE 2 .

People generally do this when they have TYPE 3 which Is basically useless for online gaming.

You can not physically change the NAT ,it changes when you do some of the above...

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He did say it was Nat 1 mate.

Maybe it's a Plusnet/BT thing?
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So you not bothered about teaming up then mate......I don't believe it's a BT v Plusnet thing either because we have played quite a few online games and I have even invited you to play some of my games haven't i.......[ wink] and that suggestion is if true is the most outrageous stupid minded thing they could possibly do...

Ps....apologies Swanny I must have miss heard you with all Nellys guns and excitement when he was playing the game and Timey here was trying to sort out the network issues.......

No, what I meant was, maybe they both have similarly poor default settings, unlike perhaps buying your own and configuring it manually.

In reply to a post by time2die:

Swanny I asked you for the settings last night and you said your NAT was type 2 ....

You're probably right, I expect your memory is better than mine

I'll have a look later if I'm online

Edited by deleted (Wed 26-Nov-14 08:29:33)