PS4 loading times

I thought the idea was that the game is partly loaded onto the hard drive so that you didn't have to suffer waiting for levels to load? The idea was that it came fitted with a massive 500GB drive which it turns out is too small so people and Timey's change them for 1TB drives and still have to keep an eye on how full it is.
What went wrong? Loading times in GTA V for example are the same if not worst as the PS3.
And why is the PS4 network worst than the PS3's?

It's down to the developers to take advantage of it I believe.

Good points Swanny and i totally agree with the playstation 4 network been a complete load of [censored].

Myself and Nelly tried to connect for some co/op fun tonight and got constant error messages and gave up after 30 minutes.

Seems every game released so far this year is having online issues,Assasins Creed Unity,Drive Club,Halo master collection advanced warfighter and its lagg and now it seems Far Cry 4 has issues,looked this evening and i don't see that many reports of this happening apart from about half a dozen,seems the multiplayer works fine but not the co/op.

As for the loading times,the playstation 4 is 10x faster than the previous playstation 3 and at least 4 x faster than xbox one

Edited by time2die (Mon 24-Nov-14 00:06:18)

Yeah i go wash the car , mow the garden , have a shower , eat my dinner and then check to see if my Xbone is still installing my game .

This is because they using all the unified memory for visuals instead of caching content, I think I talked about this a few months back.

Also that loading speed's are also governed by cpu power as well as i/o speeds.

Some modern games tho do have horrific loading times, dragon age inquisition is running of my samsung 850 pro ssd (a very fast ssd) and I have loading times of around 20 seconds in some places.

When we do manage to play co operatively, you realise we won't get an awful lot done right?

It'll be like an outtake of The Expendables.

the Xbone is really odd, some games it seems to install quick and others it takes an age. When I first got it I installed AC Black Flag and Dead Rising 3 in about 15 to 20 mins each I think it was. When I installed Fifa 15 it took 3 hours..... 3 hours!! It's ridiculous. I think it actually downloaded the whole game, rather than installing it from the disk

whats strange is the fact that the 360 was a breeze and it installed games very very quickly and the playstation 3 took ages,now it seem that the playstation 4 is really quick and the xbox one not so.

Saying that the network on the playstation 4 is now 10x worse than the playstation 3 era and its a smack in the face to anyone that has upgraded and everybody that now pays Sony £40 a year subscription to a very shoddy and unreliable network.

Being honest , i don't buy games on disks anymore , preferring to swap region and get my games as cheap downloads .

optical media is so last gen .

That's what I was doing up until quite recently but they seem to have put a stop to that now!!
I think the only option is xbox live credit for the different regions but from what I've heard that's very restricted now too

I've never bothered with that, you can pick up most new games for about £40 if you shop around and then you can usually trade them back for about £15 to £20. I was tempted to try it when Jorkilla mentioned it last month, but I thought it would get stopped eventually or something bad may happen to the games I had bought!

thats a pain , was hoping to get farcry 4 that way

game trading is rubbish with the shop getting to ride you twice and i do enjoy revisiting old games and old gaming systems .
Not totally sure how this will work with digital downloads but in for a penny in for a pound . as i embrace the future , not the past .

Game trading is not rubbish mate it lessons the burden of having to pay full price for a new game.

Once you have truly finished with a game you get some credit against a new one,i agree that the price that the major high street chain Game pay is completely unjustified and a lot lower than a few years back especially when you think the average cost of a new game on the latest generation is around £10 dearer than old generation then yes it's a complete rip of.

But this has come about by Game completely destroying other smaller independent game retailers and having now the total monopoly of the High Street and the Gaming scene in general,they got way to big and cockey,bought out a competitor in Gamestation,completely ruined that store and they went bust,Other smaller independent stores at the time could not compete with Game and started closing down,Game themselves went into administration at one point and just like the Supermarkets they now dominate the high streets with the demise of places like Gamestation and Blockbusters and smaller game outlets when at the time they had a little bit of competition.

Digital games from either the Sony network or Xbox generally cost up to £10 to £15 more,why i will never now,and then once purchased you are stuck with it forever and there is no refunds or trade in available.

Now what they should do is let you trade a digitally downloaded game against another digital purchase so it would lesson the cost of that game,then they could let you purchase the new game and delete the other of your hard drive,not only would this benefit the buyer in lessoning the price it would also free up limited space on what is in general a restricted hard drive in the first place that fills up really quick.

Im not arguing about the prices you get for a game that may not be even 2 weeks old when you take it to Game,they may offer you just £15 to £20 for a game you paid £45 for 2 weeks earlier ,and when you look on the shelf they are selling that same second hand game for £40 if not more.

I hate game with a passion and i hate there rip of trade in prices,but with me they are the only solution to a never ending supply of games i own and i do not want or wish to play anymore.

Yes i can use Ebay and other online auction sites,but i can not be bothered with the competition on there,the fact i have to go through 10 minutes of listing the item,waiting 3,4,7 days for the sale to finish,and then having to go to the post office to sort that out.
Then after all that you get the idiot that buys it who says the item is not as it was advertised and he wants his money back and trys to pull a fast one and paypal refunds him.

Buyers have all the odds stacked in there favour and on countless occasions i have been well and truly ripped of with eBay polices and procedures.

Edited by time2die (Tue 25-Nov-14 11:20:23)

the whole industry will benefit with game going away.

game seem the uk equivalent of america's gamestop or whatever it called.

I think game is responsible for things like retailer exclusivity deal's, enforcing high digital prices so game isnt undercut, and low supplies of new games as they make their profit on used games. They are also responsible for ubisoft taking their games off steam.

I agree with woweebert using game for trade in's is a mugs game.

I dont trade in games but if I wanted to sell I would use ebay near christmas.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 25-Nov-14 14:04:49)

I never understand why it's so busy in their shops

The couple games I have for my PS4 don't seem to have installed as they would on my Xbox One.
Perhaps I blinked and missed it, the load times so far have seemed fine to me!

In reply to a post by Lt_Swan:

I never understand why it's so busy in their shops

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Thats Easy ���.Tell me where is the Competition on the high street,not talking your local Supermarket but there are very limited retail game shops on the high street anymore.

Another reason why i buy from Shopto.

Also Swanny thats where you trade your games isn't it,supermarkets to my knowledge don't take trade ins��.

Edited by time2die (Tue 25-Nov-14 16:25:05)

ASDA and Tesco used to do trade ins but I think they have both stopped doing so.
Personally if I trade in it tends to be at Amazon or Shopto as that's where I tend to get a lot of my stuff.

To get 15 to 20 mins install times on the xbox one you have to take the Ethernet cable out or disconnect wifi or it will download some of the title.

I learned this day one when ghosts took and age and my friends on faster inet had got it installed and were playing.

I took the ethernet out and it stalled.

Rebooted without and it took 15 mins.

Yeah I've done this before in the past on the Bone, I think I posted it somewhere too!

yeah its like I said before, buying a game from them for £40+ then selling it back a few days later for £20 is basically renting it for 2 days for £20.