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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 16-Jun-09 15:46:04
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Avanti - Hylas satellite upload as well as down?


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I've just read the BBC news item on Avanti's plans for broadband satellite, with Hylas proving 2Mb for 300,000 people at £300 plus £15/month.

Unfortunately it reads like a PR release and the reporter fails to say whether the satellite is two way - i.e. do you need a phone line as well? Some satellites have the huge disadvantage of needing dial-up running all the time you use it for uploading/making requests for web pages.
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(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Jun-09 19:35:38
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In reply to a post by rbeal:
I've just read the BBC news item on Avanti's plans for broadband satellite, with Hylas proving 2Mb for 300,000 people at £300 plus £15/month.

Unfortunately it reads like a PR release and the reporter fails to say whether the satellite is two way - i.e. do you need a phone line as well? Some satellites have the huge disadvantage of needing dial-up running all the time you use it for uploading/making requests for web pages.
It's two-way. So that's 600ms latency to factor in. I feel sorry for anyone that has to rely on satellite broadband but it's better than dial-up.

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(deleted) Wed 17-Jun-09 22:37:05
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I use mobile BB but I'm out in the sticks so it's like dialup as I'm in a 2G area.
When I go into town with my laptop I get faster speeds with 3G.

I'd give BB sat a try if it's two way and a reasonable price but I don't get the £300 bit.
I can put up a dish and align it to the proper sat so all I need is the modem etc to connect to my laptop.

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(deleted) Wed 17-Jun-09 22:39:05
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£300 would be for your equipment, dish, and setup by a qualified engineer. But you wouldnt get much bandwidth. Id say your looking at 3-5GB at most. Might be as low as 1GB if its from PR!
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(deleted) Wed 17-Jun-09 22:41:19
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I don't need an engineer and I wouldn't pay £300.
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(deleted) Thu 18-Jun-09 08:05:51
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I don't need an engineer


Yes you do. Satellite uplink has to be done professionally. It's rather more complicated (and potentially much more dangerous) than your average Sky dish.
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(knowledge is power) Thu 18-Jun-09 09:35:42
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Zeb, don't take this the wrong way but can you explain how sat uplink is "dangerous"?
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(deleted) Thu 18-Jun-09 09:37:40
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I have half a dozen dishes in my back garden all pointing at different sats to get the foreign tv stations.
I installed them myself.
If I've to pay £300 for an engineer to come to my house then I won't bother with sat internet.
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(deleted) Thu 18-Jun-09 10:05:12
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I think they would insist of installing it and connecting it themselves. Bit like Virgin Media and their cable guys. They know how to get in the system so they give you the right speed, cannot give out the whole network config to a customer.
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(deleted) Thu 18-Jun-09 10:06:29
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You seem very stuborn. Why fo you have 6 sats?! One or two is enough, they can be mirrored you know.

Good luck getting connected with that attitude.
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(deleted) Thu 18-Jun-09 22:43:36
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In reply to a post by ian72:
Zeb, don't take this the wrong way but can you explain how sat uplink is "dangerous"?


Certainly. A focussed microwave beam is dangerous in the wrong hands. A few loose bolts, and you could be aiming RF power at quite a small area.
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(deleted) Thu 18-Jun-09 22:56:08
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In reply to a post by RebeccaLovejoy:
I have half a dozen dishes in my back garden all pointing at different sats to get the foreign tv stations.
I installed them myself.
If I've to pay £300 for an engineer to come to my house then I won't bother with sat internet.


Satellite uplinks have to be licenced by Ofcom. You won't get one.
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(Unregistered)Wed 21-Oct-09 17:24:52
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I am an customer of the aforementioned and its directly comparrable to the 2 g speeds I had before. Its 512/256 at best and rain and snow and trees can be an issue. Its £30.month and has image compression and similar cunning plans to keep it easy for them. I got a subsidised Governmant deal (yup Scotland ) otherwise I wouldnt go there. I'd try to get a group satellite downlink IF there were neighbours and a biznis in need of adsl OR even better and what the Scottish Government shoul have gone for IMHO local area wifi which they turned down up here.
We have a discussion group on google one can join if interested see the below for info. Anyone who is very keen can find their way here and get depressed at the speed test results of Mbps 0.31 down and average of 0.20 up....zzzzzzzzzzzz!


http://www.picturenow.co.uk/broadbandreach/
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(Unregistered)Wed 21-Oct-09 17:27:07
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PS I can be found as wee dee on the discussion group above if needed
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(Unregistered)Fri 06-Aug-10 10:59:08
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Not really dangerous but the alignment with satellite has to be very accurate, some operators do allow self install of two way satellite Internet
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(Unregistered)Fri 06-Aug-10 11:01:16
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Regarding latency - this is not likely to be an issue for most browsing though secure web sites (https) may feel slow. The main thing is that some games will not work (those like call of duty which requires near real time connections to the other players)
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For more info about the new Hylas broadband service, have a look here, hylas-1.com
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