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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-Sep-10 23:39:43
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Should BT.com Website Know my ISP?


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When I go to the Home page of BT.com it invites me to "Switch from Orange this Summer".

How does it know I'm using Orange for my Broadband?

Is it sneaking a look at my IP addy?

Isn't this a violation of the Data Protection Act?

Or is this considered just like targeted online advertising?

Just wondering!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Tue 14-Sep-10 23:46:54
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When I go to the Home page of BT.com it invites me to "Switch from Orange this Summer".

How does it know I'm using Orange for my Broadband?

Is it sneaking a look at my IP addy?

Isn't this a violation of the Data Protection Act?

Or is this considered just like targeted online advertising?

Just wondering!
Every site you visit has access to your IP address at the time. A simple lookup of which ISP that address belongs to is all that is needed.

You experience this every time you do a TBB speed test. If you don't log into the main site it asks you to confirm the detected ISP.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - O2 Standard.
Moderator billford
(moderator) Tue 14-Sep-10 23:49:17
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Re: Should BT.com Website Know my ISP?


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Is it sneaking a look at my IP addy?
If the server didn't have a look at your IP address it wouldn't know where to send the page data to...

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 14-Sep-10 23:52:42
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In reply to a post by billford:
In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Is it sneaking a look at my IP addy?
If the server didn't have a look at your IP address it wouldn't know where to send the page data to...
He could hide behind a proxy...
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Wed 15-Sep-10 00:10:06
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Yes, I know that the underlying comms layers know all about my IP, but seems a little bit underhand for the top application layer to go about broadcasting who I bought some product from when I am not a customer of their's.

Yes, I expect TBB speedtest to work out my ISP, but it's not for their commercial dealings (nor is your site).

Does it invite you to Switch from O2?

@billford: Very true!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Moderator billford
(moderator) Wed 15-Sep-10 00:13:16
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@billford: Very true!
There's a lot of information in an http request:

http://djce.org.uk/dumprequest

I used to have a link to another site which showed it better, but I can't find it mad

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 15-Sep-10 00:14:02
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Yes, I expect TBB speedtest to work out my ISP, but it's not for their commercial dealings (nor is your site).
I think the ads on here can target you based on your IP.
Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Wed 15-Sep-10 00:14:21
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That's why you shouldn't (just out of interest) click a link to a website in a (dodgy) Spam email. Gives an address to attempt to hack.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - O2 Standard.
Moderator billford
(moderator) Wed 15-Sep-10 00:26:07
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Gives an address to attempt to hack.
Along with details of your OS so that the contents of the returned page can be suitably "configured"...

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Wed 15-Sep-10 00:34:10
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OK, perhaps I didn't make my concerns clear.

How they do it is obvious but whether they should be doing it is dubious.

After all, when I go to O2 or any other ISP's BB pages, they don't try to dissuade me from my current ISP, not even TT who can get up to some underhand shenanigans.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
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