Don't call cable "fibre"

Time Warner Cable asked to stop calling their coax "fibre" by US advertising watchdog http://is.gd/93GodB - TWC don't agree.

Once FTTH is passing enough homes in the UK it will become more of an issue here I think.
The number of people with cable who think they have fibre when they post, does suggest that people are confused.

Though at end of the day, does the technicals of the dellivery matter, so long as it does what it says on the tin.

so long as it does what it says on the tin

- go back to calling it "high speed internet" then, like the CableCos used to do.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

The number of people with cable who think they have fibre when they post, does suggest that people are confused

The confusion was started by VM marketing aided and abetted by the ASA. Calling VM's cable "fibre optic broadband" is plain wrong and the ASA decision to allow it was (imo) incorrect.

Hi MrSaffron, have you seen this POF Plastic Optical Fibre for the home it can easily be fitted together, a bit like Lego.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aud5eagSjIs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF4lPnW9mcY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_optical_fiber

Urm yes have been using temporary fibre networks for broadband video and Gig Ethernet for a few years now.

Something that is likely to happen with the latest review of advertising, i.e. less technical words like Mega bits and more things like

Sumo
Fat broadband
High Speed Broadband
Uberband
l33tband

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Something that is likely to happen with the latest review of advertising, i.e. less technical words like Mega bits and more things like

Sumo
Fat broadband
High Speed Broadband
Uberband
l33tband

Brass band?
Rubber band?
Sumo off peak, pants on peak band?
Mine's better than yours band?

Heavy porn downloaders could be on 'Lonely Hearts club Band'.

Edited by camieabz (Thu 10-Feb-11 13:49:15)

In reply to a post by camieabz:

Heavy porn downloaders could be on 'Lonely Hearts club Band'.

Has your membership been approved yet?

You ought to know, 'Chairman'.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Once FTTH is passing enough homes in the UK it will become more of an issue here I think.
The number of people with cable who think they have fibre when they post, does suggest that people are confused.

Though at end of the day, does the technicals of the dellivery matter, so long as it does what it says on the tin.

of course it matter, misselling is very important.

I dont care if cable is faster than FTTP even, the fact is cable isnt fibre.

Its blatant lieing to get sales. Like the unlimited farce and the speed con.

The thinkbroadband Fibre Broadband (FTTC / FTTH) Guide says, "Fibre broadband is a new type of broadband that is currently being deployed in the UK by BT, Virgin Media and other operators which uses fibre optic cables to help increase the speed of your broadband connection." The table of providers at the bottom of the page includes Virgin Media cable.

There, that makes it all clear...

JPL

In reply to a post by JPL:

The thinkbroadband Fibre Broadband (FTTC / FTTH) Guide says, "Fibre broadband is a new type of broadband that is currently being deployed in the UK by BT, Virgin Media and other operators which uses fibre optic cables to help increase the speed of your broadband connection." The table of providers at the bottom of the page includes Virgin Media cable.

There, that makes it all clear...

JPL

Why the word 'help'?

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

In reply to a post by JPL:

The thinkbroadband Fibre Broadband (FTTC / FTTH) Guide says, "Fibre broadband is a new type of broadband that is currently being deployed in the UK by BT, Virgin Media and other operators which uses fibre optic cables to help increase the speed of your broadband connection." The table of providers at the bottom of the page includes Virgin Media cable.

There, that makes it all clear...

JPL

Why the word 'help'?


I suppose they mean that as connection speed is not the only aspect of BB (albeit an important one) then it helps to improve the BB connection.
It might have been better to say " help improve your BB experiance" i suppose.

Edited by deleted (Fri 11-Feb-11 10:35:13)

tbb can put up what defenition they like, but it should be FTTP to be classed as fibre in my book.

tbb can put up what defenition they like, but it should be FTTP to be classed as fibre in my book

I actually agree with you!

FTTP is the only *real* fibre solution - otherwise they should call it a "limited-copper" solution or something!

After all, the link from exchange to POP will be fibre anyway so surely Sky can say they have fibre optic broadband?

After all, someone may live <50m from the exchange so they only have 50m of copper in their line. Someone else may live 80m from Cab with FTTC and they are classed as fibre optic broadband!

The whole thing is stupid and so the only way to make sense is either everything is "fibre-optic" broadband or *just* FTTP gets to be called fibre-optic broadband.

However, when it's at the POP it's likely to go onto copper ethernet cables so maybe we should just give up and not bother at all!

its like HD, fttc is 720p HD, FTTP is FULL HD 1080p.

In reply to a post by Adamant:

tbb can put up what defenition they like, but it should be FTTP to be classed as fibre in my book

I actually agree with you!

FTTP is the only *real* fibre solution - otherwise they should call it a "limited-copper" solution or something!

After all, the link from exchange to POP will be fibre anyway so surely Sky can say they have fibre optic broadband?

After all, someone may live <50m from the exchange so they only have 50m of copper in their line. Someone else may live 80m from Cab with FTTC and they are classed as fibre optic broadband!

The whole thing is stupid and so the only way to make sense is either everything is "fibre-optic" broadband or *just* FTTP gets to be called fibre-optic broadband.

However, when it's at the POP it's likely to go onto copper ethernet cables so maybe we should just give up and not bother at all!

It's like broadband. It's not broadband is it?!

until im connected to a DSLAM or access switch of some kind exclusively via fibre its not a fibre connection in my book.

otherwise its no more fibre than my current adsl connection.

ADSL: ISP network > fibre > DSLAM > copper > me

FTTC: ISP Network > fibre > Dslam (in cab) > copper > me

same difference

should be reduced distance broadband RDADSL?

In reply to a post by workerbee:

should be reduced distance broadband RDADSL?

Nope. As it is VDSL2.

How about ORCAB?

In reply to a post by workerbee:

until im connected to a DSLAM or access switch of some kind exclusively via fibre its not a fibre connection in my book.

otherwise its no more fibre than my current adsl connection.

Which is of course, cable!

Urm Cable as in Virgin Media is still a metal cable from cabinet to the property