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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 08-May-11 16:16:50
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Extension wiring and ADSL Filters


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Hi

My master sockets (2 lines) have BT Openreach supplied built in ADSL filters on the face plate (physical lines into property replaced by BT 6 months ago).

When you remove the faceplate there are punch contacts for wires 2,3 & 5 - for adding extensions. My question is, if an extension is added in this way, does that also need a micro filter on the end of it or will it already be filtered?

Thanks

Tom
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(Unregistered)Sun 08-May-11 16:32:52
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Wire number 3 can be removed as not needed in this day & age.
ALL extension phone sockets need a filter fitted, even if no phone plugged in !
This includes Sky boxs
Mike A
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(deleted) Sun 08-May-11 16:46:58
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If you have filtered face-plates you do not need additional filters (although it won't do any harm). Only connect wires to pins 2 & 5.


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(deleted) Sun 08-May-11 16:58:12
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Thanks for your comments.... need a third to get a majority opinion!
Standard User JonRennie
(knowledge is power) Sun 08-May-11 17:36:16
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John2007 is correct - the faceplate filters all your extensions too, so no additional filters required.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sun 08-May-11 18:55:16
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If using an ADSL faceplate filter, then no microfilter will be required on extensions connected to the krone terminations on the back of the faceplate.

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(deleted) Sun 08-May-11 18:56:41
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Thanks, all - I'll take that as the answer then. Makes life significantly easier!
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 08-May-11 22:49:38
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Just watch out for Sky boxes though. Some early ones needed double filtering, then the problem with them seemed to get fixed, but recently I think we have had a few HD ones needing it. So if you have any problems if you have one connected, try adding a filter where it connects.

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(Unregistered)Sun 08-May-11 22:52:54
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Thanks for the advice. Not got sky though... That'll only change if Newscorp gets the F1!
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 08-May-11 22:55:10
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
Thanks for the advice. Not got sky though... That'll only change if Newscorp gets the F1!
They'd better not! Though I fear the might of Murdoch cash.

Fabulous season so far!

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Mon 09-May-11 00:16:21
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What a load of rubbish. If you do not know FACTS don't try spreading false information.

1. Sockets without phones or telephony devices (modems, faxes &c) DO NOT need filters.

2. Wire 3 may be needed. Some phones that are still manufactured and available need a bell circuit and will not function if wire 3 (as you call it) is not connected.





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(deleted) Mon 09-May-11 09:21:44
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Many people need their broadband service carried to a different room in the house from the one containing the telephone master socket. Unless you are using wireless equipment this is done using a telephone extension of some type. It is vital that a microfilter is placed on all extension points on which telephone devices are attached

This is cut & paste from & current Plusnet doc, same advice can be found in BT settup docs.
I my case filtering empty sockets stopped dropouts & improved speed approx 20%
But every house setup is different so try with & without
Yes you are right some old stye phones will still need wire 3 ( ring wire )
Ps I have now removed all extension sockets & use DEC phones / powerline plugs
Best wishs Mike
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(deleted) Mon 09-May-11 10:20:39
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This page I guess http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/help_and_setup...

It's out of date as it doesn't allow for the modern filtered faceplate.
Standard User rarrar
(member) Mon 09-May-11 11:41:38
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The issue raised by the OP is specifically concerned with extensions coming from the already filtered connectors on the back of a filtered faceplate on the Master socket.

It is probably best not to cloud the issue ( especially for any newbies reading) with the more general case of unfiltered extensions.
Standard User cajef
(experienced) Mon 09-May-11 11:48:59
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In reply to a post by Copperking:
I my case filtering empty sockets stopped dropouts & improved speed approx 20%

Out of interest can you say what a filter plugged into an empty socket is filtering?

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