plusnet or talktalk????

hi everyone, moving into my own flat for the 1st time (scary time lol) on the 1st of sep, i have been looking at broadband/homephone deals which is took me between plusnet and talktalk,i have looked at sky broadband and dont like them at all. i will be gaming alot on the xbox some p2p and streaming. i dont mind a Little bit of traffic snapping but not all the time. i need anytime call package that includes 0845/0870 i need at least 50gig broadband usage. I have heard alot of bad things about talktalk but not so much about plusnet.Can anyone tell me some more about talktalk and plusnet and what they are like.i live with my parents at the mo which they are with o2 broadband which is very good but there new packages dont look every good at all
the postcode of the area im moving too is ol12 6rj.

thanks Thomas

go with talktalk mate am with them got 3 xboxes in the house all working no problems at

all no slow down etc. some people talk a load of rubbish about them one thing I would say

is if you do join them and need anyhelp go to there members forum they are excellent in

there help and advice DON'T use the phone line support if that's what you can call it

http://www.talktalkmembers.com/forums/

It partly depends how much you want to spend, and also how long you expect to be at the same flat.

I can't say I'm a fan of having the phone line and broadband bundled together. It normally means you are tied in more than you are by having them separate.

Ignoring that, on that exchange you can get Be. That is technically the same as, slightly more flexible in fact than, the old O2 packages your parents are on. That would be my choice, with the line from BT on an 18-month contract costing only £30 installation. You need to make 10 calls per month I think, but those can be within the included freebies. So you could make dummy calls to your parents, (or anywhere else), one after another, once a month.

Others to look at for the line are the Post Office and Be. The trouble with Be is that if you migrate out you have to change line provider as well, and that gets messy. Hence what I said at the start.

You could get both from Plusnet, but you would need the "Pro" "Boost". That prioritises gaming and also solves the traffic management, which is set out on this page.

What didn't you like about Sky? For the broadband side it is next best to Be.

hi there Roberto

I only really want to spend upto 25pound amonth for the phone and broadband, i have seen bethere they look great but its just the cost.

the only prob with sky is that the 0845 number are not included and i dont think i can have broadband with sky if im not having there tv?

is there alot of traffic snaping on talktalk plus package if so is it proper bad traffic snaping like the old days of tiscali? what sort of times they traffic snap?

there is no bt socket in the flat at the mo so thats going to cost to get a socket fixed?

thanks for your help, thomas

there is NO traffic shaping on talktalk plus package

so if i downloaded on p2p i wud get full torrent speed yeah?

cheers thomas

....... i dont think i can have broadband with sky if im not having there tv?

It seems you can get it without TV

Edit > you can get BB and calls without paying sky for line rental link, see "Just want broadband & calls"

Edited by Apprentice (Sun 14-Aug-11 22:01:04)

They do throttle P2P. Be is the best large provider in my opinion. If not Be then get Sky.

That is correct

they DO NOT

Check out the TT forum for users' views on TT BB

Some suggest that P2P is throttled.

They do. I don't want a debate over it, just giving some friendly advice.

Look there:
http://www.talktalk.co.uk/legal/broadband-traffic-ma...

just looked at talktalk t&c and it seems they do traffic snap http://www.talktalk.co.uk/legal/broadband-traffic-ma...

do plusnet use tiscali llu for there broadband?

In reply to a post by whotogowith2011:

do plusnet use tiscali llu for there broadband?

No, BT's network.

ok thanks. well its looking like plusnet atm with the 5pound pro add on. the only thing stopping me going with sky is the 0845 number are not included

plusnet website say when i put my postcode in i can get 17mb wow that is very fast

thanks thomas

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

they DO NOT

TalkTalk throttle P2P heavily.

In reply to a post by whotogowith2011:

do plusnet use tiscali llu for there broadband?

As has been said, no. They stopped using it years ago. In fact Tiscali no longer exists - TalkTalk bought it last year, and all customers have been transferred.

As has also been said, you don't have to take Sky line rental or calls, nor do you have to have their TV. But how much 0845 calling do you do? Is it so important?

Anyway, my ranking for best product:- first, line rental with BT with Be Unlimited broadband - but you say too expensive; second Sky Unlimited; third Plusnet Extra with Pro option. The Plusnet one should be perfectly OK, there's nothing wrong with being third in a list of over a hundred, so if it fits your cost needs and you feel comfortable with it, go for it. It's only a monthly contract anyway if you pay the startup cost. The others are 12 months, or 18 for TT.

TalkTalk are wayyyyyyyyyyyy below those for your requirements.

Well i personally would not choose either of them, both imo are rubbish here is the details for rochdale exchange lcroc there 's what is available to you i note that fttc will be available in your area early next year, so something to consider before getting into a 12ths or even worse still 18mths contract (talktalk) bt do an anytime calling plan 0800 0845 free inc

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Well i personally would not choose either of them, both imo are rubbish here is the details for rochdale exchange lcroc there 's what is available to you i note that fttc will be available in your area early next year, so something to consider before getting into a 12ths or even worse still 18mths contract (talktalk) bt do an anytime calling plan 0800 0845 free inc

How many Anonymous posters are there in this thread? One seems to like TT, you seem not to. Why the heck people don't register so we can at least agree or disagree with them in a sensible way defeats me.

Anonymous posts are pretty well useless as they tend to be opinionated and often wrong.

In this case the 0845 free calls on BT call plans, which are compulsory and included in the charges, have usage requirements, as I pointed out to the OP earlier. 0800 is free on all CPs, period!

TalkTalk ffic manage on there basic package ONLY anyone who says diffrent dosnt deserve BB or a computer. and even then there pretty half assed whith it iv been with TT for 5 years now and only had one problem when the phone line outside snapped on a windy day took the best part of 24 hours for them to get it fixed which isnt to bad at all as for speed if your intrested use the talktalkmembers.com website and they will proberbly get you above the predicted speeds they got me a full extra meg

i dont know much about plusnet other than there from yorkshire XD
the big killer i have against plus net is its owned by BT who cant seem to get much right from the looks of there fibre roll out

other than that there both great companys just like SKY and BE

(ps i dont use full stops because its way over the other side of the keyboard and i cant be bother)

In reply to a post by vm1990:

(ps i dont use full stops because its way over the other side of the keyboard and i cant be bother)

You can't spell either so with no punctuation it is pretty pointless trying to read it............. next

For p2p sky,BE or plusnet with there pro add-on.

So where TalkTalk say on this page about their traffic management that they slow down P2P on TalkTalk Plus, it is wrong?

Perhaps you don't use P2P much?

Have you used the ThinkBroaband "COMPARE Broadband" tool?
Of the three ISPs you are considering one come out on top in
every category and every month.

Well when i was on talktalks Plus package i got roughly 20KB/s any time day or night.

Also check the Broadband Map link on this site by putting in your postcode.
This may give you local oddities.

In reply to a post by epyon:

Well when i was on talktalks Plus package i got roughly 20KB/s any time day or night.

Are you saying that to support the argument there is traffic shaping or that there isn't?

160Kb/s is hardly quick unless that is as fast as your line goes so I am assuming you are saying that they are traffic shaping?

Which is fine until you add Be.

I suggest the Sky one is dragged down a fair bit by the bad reports they will be getting for Sky Connect.

Plusnet does seem to be the best compromise in this instance.

My line at the time supported roughly

1500KB/s

so yes i would say it was traffic managed but

nothing else(streaming,direct FTP ect) was from what i can remember.

Edited by epyon (Mon 15-Aug-11 12:30:23)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Which is fine until you add Be.

Make sure you compare like with like and price with price.
I note you have compared TalkTalk Business - not TalkTalk with Sky and PlusNet.
In this case I doubt your decision will change, but I point this out to help others
using the great ThinkBroadband "Compare Broadband" tool for the first time.

.

Sorry, the TT Business was accidental. New version with both.

You are right about price being a factor of course. I put all that in my recommendations to the OP, bearing in mind all that he had said.

Hmmmm? Then I don't suppose other people here will "bother" reading your post as it's too difficult to understand: probably won't bother helping/replying, either.

(ps i dont use full stops because its way over the other side of the keyboard and i cant be bother)

Seems like you need one of these, vm1990

For a desktop PC with a bog standard monitor there's this and also this one.

In reply to a post by whotogowith2011:

ok thanks. well its looking like plusnet atm with the 5pound pro add on. the only thing stopping me going with sky is the 0845 number are not included

plusnet website say when i put my postcode in i can get 17mb wow that is very fast

thanks thomas

I would not believe a word Plusnet says. They quote me 17mb also and I am on a Market one 8mb exchange. Judging from the reply I received from Plusnet this morning, they seem barely literate.
Quote � thank you for contacting plus net, i do understand where you coming from and i do polgise but the max broadband usgae we offer is 60GB and we can not change it.