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Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Thu 29-Mar-12 15:31:33
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Will CW1308 2 pair cable be ok to extend a master around 10m? It's 0.5 mm solid copper
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(staff) Thu 29-Mar-12 16:04:50
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yes

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Sat 31-Mar-12 17:33:29
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Yes, but you cannot do it. You will be interfering with the incoming pair and termination and it will be obvious to BT that you have done so.





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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 31-Mar-12 17:48:42
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How will they know whodunnit?
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(staff) Sat 31-Mar-12 18:03:17
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Depends on what you mean by extend, you can do it and stay within the letter of the rules

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Sat 31-Mar-12 18:54:39
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I take "extend a master" to mean move it rather than add an extension.





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Standard User MHC
(legend) Sat 31-Mar-12 18:55:36
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Junction box? or there is another way which BT Techs will be aware of but others not.





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Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Sun 01-Apr-12 01:06:45
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By extend I did mean interfering with the BT pair. Oh I've been naughty!

I got fed up of the master socket being in a stupid place. It was in the extension and as such the wifi had to go through the thick external wall & the router was plugged in a 8 gang socket with a dvd player that kept freezing meaning the router kept being turned off and on.

The wifi was totally flaky in so many rooms. I also grew sick of home plugs - hardly convenient when you're using laptops

I was 99.999999% sure that CW1308 was fine but I was considering buying the drop cable stuff with the steel inside.

& BT will be unable to comment. I used external CW1308 cable which I obtained directly from a friend within open reach. I then used a certified junction box. The 3M one step closure from ebay. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270918958222?ssPageName=ST...

I ran the current drop cable from the front to the side of the house, where I joined the new cable with the junction box. Then CW1308 for about 10 metres to the back of the property. Drilled a hole and located the master in the kitchen... All of the cabling is external

I also used the jelly crimps which waterproof the joint nicely.

The router now has a dedicated socket behind the fridge freezer and is sat nicely on the kitchen counter. From here the wireless signal covers the entire property (which was a big problem before). & Now the router won't be turned off and on whenever somebody needs to use the dvd player.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Sun 01-Apr-12 01:12:36)

Standard User Tacitus
(experienced) Sun 01-Apr-12 08:28:20
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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
I was considering buying the drop cable stuff with the steel inside.
Didn't realise BT used CW1308 with a steel wire inside. I'm talking about the drop wire from the gable end where the wire from the pole ends, to the NTE5. Since the drop wire is usually attached to the end wall of the house, I can't see any need for steel reinforcement.

I thought current practice was to use ordinary external quality 6-core CW1308, but maybe I'm wrong.
Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Sun 01-Apr-12 08:52:43
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The cable that comes from the telegraph pole to the house contains steel supports - so that it's strengthened whilst being mid-air. It's not called CW1308 though. I've forgotten the exact name.

Generally this cable is continued unto the master to prevent use of a junction box. It's not needed on the outside of the property as the cabling is attached to the wall as stated. I was just going to get it as it's what was already used.

All of my wiring was outside not inside. The cable comes in through an external wall straight into the master. Nothing inside. & I ended up using the 3 pair stuff I think, whatever it is that openreach have.

Anyway this works nicely.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Sun 01-Apr-12 08:53:28)

Standard User Tacitus
(experienced) Sun 01-Apr-12 09:44:54
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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
Generally this cable is continued unto the master to prevent use of a junction box. It's not needed on the outside of the property as the cabling is attached to the wall as stated. I was just going to get it as it's what was already used.
I see - I still have the junction box attached to the gable end facia where it changes from the pole wire to the drop wire. I can't see any steel reinforcement and whether BT would use reinforced if they replaced it, is debatable - certainly it wouldn't be necessary unless they replaced it completely with a single run from the pole.
In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
I ended up using the 3 pair stuff I think, whatever it is that openreach have.
Mine looks as though it's 3 pair external quality.
In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
Anyway this works nicely.
Glad you got it sorted smile
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 01-Apr-12 09:55:04
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Doesn't look as though that junction box has enetry from beneath, to allow the U-bend connection that BT use to minimise water creep.

Having said that, I just swapped our pond pump, using an underwater electrical connector.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Sun 01-Apr-12 15:18:45
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The junction box is used by openreach...

A few months ago when I had a new line installed openreach used that junction box to connect the old drop cable that had been terminated outside to the new cabling that they were installing
Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Sun 01-Apr-12 18:50:13
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In the kitchen the router was in direct sunlight - it didn't like that.

Have now moved it once again. Done away with the CW1308 and the junction box I got on ebay.

The original drop cable was long enough to reach the front room. Openreach certainly won't be able to tell anything now!

Out of sunlight and wifi coverage around the whole house. Problem solved. smile I'm glad I didn't pay BT to move it into the kitchen now! What a waste of money that would have been
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(deleted) Sun 01-Apr-12 18:54:23
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lol
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