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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 07-Mar-13 21:51:02
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What sort of speed shall I get?


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VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type: Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up): 3.5 dB / 8.3 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 47.1 dB / 28.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 19.7 dBm / 12.2 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up): 141 / 36


Is on a line with an ancient early 90's bt faceplate on and not test socket.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Mar-13 21:57:08
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6.4 to 7.6 Meg?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 07-Mar-13 21:59:14
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Ouch is that all, just moved from a flat a mile away where I got 20 meg

Any way to increase speed?


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:00:01
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Move back to the flat!


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:00:28
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Move back!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:00:44
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Move back.

Nick wink
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(deleted) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:01:50
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LOLOLOL


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That was great!

Nick laugh
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:02:02
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GMTA!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:09:13
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What do you expect? You never has this at old flat:
In reply to a post by mittenkrust:
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 47.1 dB / 28.4 dB
You could try forcing ADSL2. You might squeeze 7.5 to 8 Meg.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:15:49
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In basic terms what is the actual problem, and can anything be done to sort it.

We are getting fibre at my exchange in June but so used to downloading large steam games.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:22:13
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The basic problem is that you have around 4km of copper telephone wire between your home and the exchange building, and as ADSL/ADSL/ADSL2+ performance degrades the longer the copper telephone line you are only ever going to get the speeds people have mentioned, and very possibly slower.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:30:33
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Ouch again! Its only 1.5 miles to exchange so I thought It may be a little better.

Oh well.

As a matter of interest is it worth getting a good quality filtered faceplate.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:33:49
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Isn't it obvious? The "problem" is the length of your phone line and it can't be fixed w/out moving closer to exchange, it can only be obviated.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:38:58
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C'mon, don't keep us in the dark! What are you actually getting?

How can we tell if a change of faceplate would benefit if we don't know that? The socket may look grotty but electricity may have no problem flowing thro' it.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:42:52
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I meant in terms of quality so I can minimise interferance etc.

I get dead on 5 meg, line only turned on today though
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 07-Mar-13 22:52:42
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In reply to a post by mittenkrust:
As a matter of interest is it worth getting a good quality filtered faceplate.


Filter doesn't matter, as all that does is stop you getting *DSL tones on the phone and then feedback. Unplug your phones, you don't need a filter for *DSL, so try that to test.

Nick
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 07-Mar-13 23:10:14
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THat nugget was missing from the picture earlier

5 Meg is a fraction low but in the normal range.

If you have extensions that are wired in and unused remove them, and look at removing the ring wire - lift the wire that goes to pin 3 on the various sockets

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 08-Mar-13 09:41:18
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Get your master and modem as close to the point of entry that you can. That can minimise pick up of any RFI/noise generated with yours house.

If it means getting the master moved and putting the modem in the loft have a think about it. Even think about double filtering ALL of the telephony side.

Filtered face plate, short length of cable to the input of another filtered faceplate before feeding out to the voice sockets. Any noise in the ADSL spectrum that is picked up on the voice lines will come back to the filter where it will be "rejected" but the filters are not perfect and only give 20-30dB of attenuation which is enough to stop you hearing it but with the levels the modem works at, it could still be "shouting".


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Standard User jez9999
(newbie) Sat 16-Mar-13 21:22:32
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In reply to a post by mittenkrust:
VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type: Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up): 3.5 dB / 8.3 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 47.1 dB / 28.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 19.7 dBm / 12.2 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up): 141 / 36


Is on a line with an ancient early 90's bt faceplate on and not test socket.

Out of interest, what software did you use to get those stats?

=== Jez ===
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 16-Mar-13 21:31:33
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In reply to a post by jez9999:
Out of interest, what software did you use to get those stats?
In many cases, follow the instructions on this page.

If yours isn't listed, what is it?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User jez9999
(newbie) Sat 16-Mar-13 22:50:26
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by jez9999:
Out of interest, what software did you use to get those stats?
In many cases, follow the instructions on this page.

If yours isn't listed, what is it?

It's a Technicolor TG582n.

=== Jez ===
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 17-Mar-13 12:04:26
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See if these instructions work.

If they don't, I or someone, (I'm going to be busy), will probably be able to find some that do smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User jez9999
(newbie) Sun 17-Mar-13 22:15:52
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
See if these instructions work.

If they don't, I or someone, (I'm going to be busy), will probably be able to find some that do smile.

Ah yes, I get this:
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.334 / 11.838
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [GB/GB]: 3,99 / 3,99
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,1 / 18,9
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 21,7 / 39,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 7,3 / 5,0


Look any good?

=== Jez ===
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Mar-13 22:19:34
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Very good!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 17-Mar-13 23:19:47
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As XRaySpeX says. Very good (for the length of line).

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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