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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 29-Apr-14 06:06:35
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Re: ADSL stats


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No problem. I have checked before via this checker too..


High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 50.7 35.2 12.4 7.8 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 43.6 23.9 12.4 6.1 -- Available

ADSL Max Up to 1 -- 0.75 to 2.5 Available
Fixed Rate 0.5 -- -- Available

I am on ADSL2 thats for sure thats what my router is displaying.. How it is possible is another story. I am still puzzled. Is it due to FTTC?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 29-Apr-14 08:49:19
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Re: ADSL stats


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Which option of the checker did you use, (phone number, address or postcode), and why didn't you post the exchange and cabinet line above the table, as requested? (Deleting your number or address). Seeing as you seem unsure which exchange you are on.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 29-Apr-14 14:15:07
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Re: ADSL stats


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You can't be on those BTw platforms as you are running ADSL2.

Please post a 'tracert bbc.co.uk' (you issue that command in a Commnd Window).

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 29-Apr-14 17:38:00
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Re: ADSL stats


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Which option of the checker did you use, (phone number, address or postcode), and why didn't you post the exchange and cabinet line above the table, as requested? (Deleting your number or address). Seeing as you seem unsure which exchange you are on.


Ahh I see the exchange was there too. Here are the stats again. I have used the telephone number for it.

Telephone Number on Exchange RUNFOLD is served by Cabinet 4

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Downstream Line Rate(Mbps)


Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)


Downstream Range(Mbps)


Availability Date
High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 50.7 35.2 12.4 7.8 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 43.6 23.9 12.4 6.1 -- Available

ADSL Max Up to 1 -- 0.75 to 2.5 Available
Fixed Rate 0.5 -- -- Available

Any thoughts regarding ADSL2 on this one?

Edited by deleted (Tue 29-Apr-14 17:44:44)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 29-Apr-14 17:41:12
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Re: ADSL stats


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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
You can't be on those BTw platforms as you are running ADSL2.

Please post a 'tracert bbc.co.uk' (you issue that command in a Commnd Window).


You are right this is somehow TT platform but still on bt line (line is going to be transferred over today supposedly)

Here is trace route:

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.103]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Desktop [192.168.1.254]
2 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 85-210-80-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [85.210.80.1]

3 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 85-210-254-83.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [85.210.254
.83]
4 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 85-210-254-104.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [85.210.25
4.104]
5 34 ms 9 ms 9 ms host-78-144-11-121.as13285.net [78.144.11.121]
6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms host-78-144-10-77.as13285.net [78.144.10.77]
7 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms bbc-pp-sov.as13285.net [78.144.5.1]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
10 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 132.185.255.165
11 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms fmt-vip132.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.103]

Trace complete.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 29-Apr-14 18:52:29
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OK, so we have confirmed that is your exchange, and the tracert proves it is TalkTalk, so samknows is simply out of date. Recent TalkTalk supply at an exchange is always ADSL2+ or FTTC.

Am I right in thinking you are altering your SNRM/noise margin with RouterStats? You seemed to be doing that when you were with Zen. If you were, what was the default setting with them, and what is it with your TalkTalk reseller? (Xilo/uno, vivaciti?)

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 29-Apr-14 19:33:04
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In reply to a post by Kamil:
2 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 85-210-80-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [85.210.80.1]
Your tracert shows you are connecting directly with the TT network, actually Tiscali, w/out touching BT at all. Confirming that you are running on TT LLU ADSL2+ as we thought.

You may very well be still on a BT voice line but just means that are now on TT Partial LLU, intending to be transferred to TT Full LLU some time today which will make it more difficult to migrate to a BT based line in future should you ever want to.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 29-Apr-14 19:42:38
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Re: ADSL stats


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In reply to a post by Kamil:
I can not order any ADSL2+ products here.
Yes you can - see below.
In reply to a post by Kamil:
when I go on TT website all they can offer me ADSL wise is simply broadband with max 3,8mbps estimated speed.
That's right, they are offering you their standard unlimited 'Up to 24 Meg' ADSL2+. The estimated speed is so low cuz of your long line.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 29-Apr-14 19:47:10
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Re: ADSL stats


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Am I right in thinking you are altering your SNRM/noise margin with RouterStats?
No!
In reply to a post by Kamil:
My provider is able to set SNR target manually and it takes instant to apply as well.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 29-Apr-14 20:06:35
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Re: ADSL stats


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
OK, so we have confirmed that is your exchange, and the tracert proves it is TalkTalk, so samknows is simply out of date. Recent TalkTalk supply at an exchange is always ADSL2+ or FTTC.

Am I right in thinking you are altering your SNRM/noise margin with RouterStats? You seemed to be doing that when you were with Zen. If you were, what was the default setting with them, and what is it with your TalkTalk reseller? (Xilo/uno, vivaciti?)


I wonder if TT can update in exchange by them self? I ask because BT has not updated the exchange as there were no plans for it as it being FTTC enabled already so there was no point in doing it (I was told this by Zen but only as an opinion tho)

Now if I go on the TT website and try to order broadband it gives me option for simply broadband - is that the adsl2+ service?

I used to tweak my SNR as I was put on 12dB profile by DLM after initially being started off at 6dB.
Now I am just set on to 9dB with no tweaking at all. There is simply no need for it - speed is much better anyway than with this stupid ip profiling and brass business..

For your info my current provider is Pulse8. So far so good smile

edit: I am bit of a numpty it seems. I have not turned on the adsl2+ setting in my router. I am in fact connected in adsl2+ now. my attenuation has gone up tho.. from 52dB to 55,5dB. I suppose this is normal?

Thanks for your help.
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