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Hi - How do I set up my talktalk email to send from another email address (another domain)?
Thank you,
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smtp.talktalk.net port 25 with no authentication. Will only work whilst connected to the TalkTalk network.
Oliver.
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Thanks Oliver for the info. But how do I actually set it up? I'm afraid I have no idea how to go about it. Any help would be welcome.
Many thanks,
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Just change your email addy from the existing one to the other one you want and leave everything else unchanged. It doesn't matter what email addy you say you are sending from. You can even set up 2 almost identical a/c's in your mail client.
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smtp.talktalk.net port 25 with no authentication. Will only work whilst connected to the TalkTalk network. OR smtp.talktalk.net port 587 Authenticated by your TT email username/pwd. Will work over any network.
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OR smtp.talktalk.net port 587 Authenticated by your TT email username/pwd. Will work over any network.
But smtp.talktalk.net port 587 insists that the From address matches the SMTP auth login, so that would be no good for what the OP wants to do.
Oliver.
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Unless the "Reply to" field will be sufficient for his purpose?
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Ah, OK. That's unlike EE's Port 587 SMTP which will send from any email addy as long as you authenticate it with your own email addy. Are you sure that's not sufficient?
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Unless the "Reply to" field will be sufficient for his purpose?
That's a pretty ugly solution since the "from" address will be some irrelevant TalkTalk address. The port 25 solution I gave will work better, assuming "roaming" is not required.
Oliver.
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Ah, OK. That's unlike EE's Port 587 SMTP which will send from any email addy as long as you authenticate it with your own email addy. Are you sure that's not sufficient?
No, it doesn't work. You get this:
The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's email address. The sender's email address was '[email protected]'.
Subject 'xxxxxx'
Server Error: 551
Server Response: 551 Must match AUTH used (TT421)
Server: 'smtp.talktalk.net'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 587
Secure(SSL): Yes
Also, the system does not allow third party email addresses to be added to the webmail settings in order to authorise them, like for instance Gmail's settings do.
Oliver.
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This seems to be another example of why using ISP email can be more of a nuisance than a benefit  .
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This seems to be another example of why using ISP email can be more of a nuisance than a benefit .
Yeah, although I don't believe this is common practice. As far as I know, neither BT (via Yahoo and a perpetual migration to Openwave) or Sky (via Yahoo) follow this behaviour.
Oliver.
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Right, I've confirmed what you say by using my Tiscali a/c, which is operated the same as TT. As long as you send from a pukka email addy it will seem to send it w/out error but it never arrives. So it must gobble it up.
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This seems to be another example of why using ISP email can be more of a nuisance than a benefit . But not Orange  !
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Right, I've confirmed what you say by using my Tiscali a/c, which is operated the same as TT. As long as you send from a pukka email addy it will seem to send it w/out error but it never arrives. So it must gobble it up.
The Tiscali SMTP server would appear to do things differently to the TalkTalk one then, if you are sending from a third party address via authenticated SMTP and are not seeing the error message I posted previously. If the Tiscali server is silently deleting the email, then I prefer the TalkTalk error message!
Oliver.
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With Tiscali, if you send to a non-pukka email addy, even with a valid domain, you do get an error msg: The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was '[email protected]'. Subject 'other email', Account: 'XRaySpeX's Tiscali', Server: 'smtp.tiscali.co.uk', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '553 #5.1.8 Domain of sender address <[email protected]> does not exist', Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 553, Error Number: 0x800CCC78 N.B. Same error #.
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Edited by XRaySpeX (Mon 09-Mar-15 16:35:16)
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Ok. But you are saying if you attempt to send email from a third party email address you own using authenticated Tiscali SMTP, the server simply deletes it without an error message?
If so, that's unlike how the TalkTalk SMTP server behaves.
Oliver.
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With Tiscali, if you send to a non-pukka email addy, even with a valid domain, you do get an error msg: The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was '[email protected]'. Subject 'other email', Account: 'XRaySpeX's Tiscali', Server: 'smtp.tiscali.co.uk', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '553 #5.1.8 Domain of sender address <[email protected]> does not exist', Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 553, Error Number: 0x800CCC78 N.B. Same error #.
Also, that's not an especially valid domain because it has no MX records.
Try again with [email protected] for instance.
Oliver.
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
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Try again with [email protected] for instance. That 1 is a pukka email addy (of somebody) and is gobbled up just like the rest of the pukka email addys  .
Yes, that is the correct form of an Orange email addy, but in my 1st instance I was just shortening the bit after the '@' to just the main domain, but as you say it will depend on registered MX records, of which I am not very aware..
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Yes, that is the correct form of an Orange email addy, but in my 1st instance I was just shortening the bit after the '@' to just the main domain, but as you say it will depend on registered MX records, of which I am not very aware..
Yep, for a domain to be valid for email it must have an MX record or an A record, but freeserve.co.uk (without a subdomain) has neither, so the Tiscali server refuses to accept this as a valid from address.
At some point freeserve.co.uk must have had an A record when it was serving a website, but since the website has been shut down and the A record has been deleted. As for MX records on freeserve.co.uk, I don't know if they ever existed, since customers were always supplied with a subdomain.
Oliver.
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At some point freeserve.co.uk must have had an A record when it was serving a website To what are you referring here? They still have user's webspaces but these are addressed by the same sub-domains as the emails. Are these A records used for domains which are just websites but not email addys? Where can I see such records?
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To what are you referring here? They still have user's webspaces but these are addressed by the same sub-domains as the emails.
I'm purely referring to the records for freeserve.co.uk and not subdomains such as subdomain.freeserve.co.uk
As you can see below, freeserve.co.uk has no A or MX records, but xrayspex.freeserve.co.uk (or indeed any subdomain of freeserve.co.uk) does. Therefore freeserve.co.uk will be rejected as an invalid email domain, but subdomain.freeserve.co.uk won't be.
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Name: freeserve.co.uk |
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Server: UnKnownAddress: 192.168.1.1
freeserve.co.uk
primary name server = pridns1.svr.pol.co.uk responsible mail addr = hostmaster.planet.net.uk
serial = 922078945 refresh = 3600 (1 hour)
retry = 1800 (30 mins) expire = 172800 (2 days)
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Server: UnKnownAddress: 192.168.1.1
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: xrayspex.freeserve.co.ukAddress: 195.92.193.56 |
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Server: UnKnownAddress: 192.168.1.1
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xrayspex.freeserve.co.uk MX preference = 2, mail exchanger = mail-in.freeserve.com
freeserve.co.uk nameserver = pridns2.svr.pol.co.ukfreeserve.co.uk nameserver = pridns3.svr.pol.co.uk
freeserve.co.uk nameserver = pridns4.svr.pol.co.ukfreeserve.co.uk nameserver = pridns1.svr.pol.co.uk |
Oliver.
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As you can see below, freeserve.co.uk has no A or MX records, but xrayspex.freeserve.co.uk (or indeed any subdomain of freeserve.co.uk) does.
Absolutely any string of random characters, not just valid subdomains.
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