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Standard User Malwaremike
(committed) Mon 09-Mar-15 16:53:22
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Amazon up to its tricks again


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Latest wheeze from Amazon, the company that opts out of paying taxes on £millions of UK profit yet disregards the optouts of its customers:
You're one of the very first people to use this new Q&A feature. We're trying to help customers get trusted answers from other customers when they have questions about products. As someone who owns Kaspersky antivirus, can you help this fellow customer?

This presumably because I bought KAV from them last year. One would have thought Amazon had enough bad publicity about its Prime auto-renewal trick this month without spamming customers who had chosen to refuse 'marketing material'.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 09-Mar-15 17:39:25
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I do find the Q&A section of the Amazon product pages quite helpful sometimes though. Sometimes the product description will be missing some subtle information and a helpful customer will oblige with the answer.

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(deleted) Mon 09-Mar-15 17:48:36
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It's not "Marketing Material", but requesting someone who has purchased a product to help someone else who wants to know something about that product. Not that much different to helping someone on this website is it?
Hardly worth raising as a issue.


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Standard User Malwaremike
(committed) Mon 09-Mar-15 18:00:00
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Except that the 'helpful' mail includes a checkbox to refuse further marketing from Amazon. And why deal with Amazon when Kaspersky has an excellent forum?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 09-Mar-15 18:01:07
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In reply to a post by Malwaremike:
Latest wheeze from Amazon, the company that opts out of paying taxes on £millions of UK profit yet disregards the optouts of its customers:

Amazon UK is a business, not a charity. As long as they evade tax legally, they're not doing anything wrong.
Standard User philippercival
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 09-Mar-15 18:19:04
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
Amazon UK is a business, not a charity. As long as they evade tax legally, they're not doing anything wrong.
Evading tax is illegal avoiding it is not. In this case the words used are very important.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 09-Mar-15 18:28:22
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Why are you complaining here about Amazon, they have an excellent forum .......

Customers/prospective buyers ask questions about products they are intersted in at Amazon , so Amazon ask verified purchasers if they can answer those questions.

Nothing difficult, nothing sinister ........
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 09-Mar-15 18:36:40
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In the emails I've received from Amazon asking to reply to a question someone has asked about a product I've bought I've never, ever had a check box to refuse marketing from Amazon. Anyway whether there is a forum on Kaspersky, is irrelevant as most people are too dumb to use it.
As I said this is a non subject for this forum unless you are paranoid or a Daily Mail reader. Perhaps you should post it on the Mail website. And that's the same site who brought up the ridiculous article about the so called Amazon Prime scam. The only scam is that the thick and stupid are allowed to use Amazon and can't read and understand basic English.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 09-Mar-15 18:41:28
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Every time I order something I get a selection box with an Amazon Prime trial ticked by default. There's no way to say to Amazon "no, don't want Prime, stop asking me". It's actually quite annoying, so the Amazon Prime moan has more merit, in my opinion.

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(deleted) Mon 09-Mar-15 18:47:06
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Moaning about Amazon is still not a subject for thinkbroadband. Bring it up on the Amazon web site or the home of the paranoid, the Mail website, but not here. I'm sure the Mail would love another reason to bash Amazon.

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 09-Mar-15 18:55:57
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In reply to a post by rogerfp:
Moaning about Amazon is still not a subject for thinkbroadband. Bring it up on the Amazon web site or the home of the paranoid, the Mail website, but not here. I'm sure the Mail would love another reason to bash Amazon.

No need, the ASA has already told off Amazon for it: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/amaz...

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Standard User NilSatisOptimum
(committed) Mon 09-Mar-15 20:46:38
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Indeed.

They don't avoid their responsibilities with regards to Sales of Goods Act, they go above and beyond, on 3 occasions now in my experience, I've emailed them on the Saturday and had the replacement on the Monday morning.

I know from experience that I would be past pillar to post in many other large outlets, stuck in arduous phone queue etc.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 13-Mar-15 18:39:37
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yeah I am getting these emails also.

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Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 14-Mar-15 15:00:42
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In reply to a post by Malwaremike:
Latest wheeze from Amazon, the company that opts out of paying taxes on £millions of UK profit yet disregards the optouts of its customers:
You're one of the very first people to use this new Q&A feature. We're trying to help customers get trusted answers from other customers when they have questions about products. As someone who owns Kaspersky antivirus, can you help this fellow customer?

This presumably because I bought KAV from them last year. One would have thought Amazon had enough bad publicity about its Prime auto-renewal trick this month without spamming customers who had chosen to refuse 'marketing material'.
What exactly is the big deal?

Now I'm very much against spam and all forms of advertising (I own a Truecall unit and never watch live TV for example) but I've had a couple of these emails and all they are doing is asking if you as the probable owner of the product can help out other people who are thinking of buying it or are using it and have problems.

I answered a couple of questions because I like to be helpful and share my knowledge. If you don't like providing help for other people why do you even bother coming to Thinkbroadband?

As for Amazon and taxation - I'll repeat what I've often pointed out on the subject. Companies do not pay taxes. The owners, shareholders and customers pay them. Taxes are just one of many expenses for a company and they will just pass the cost on to other people. The only people who have any reason to complain about Amazon being tax efficient are those who own or are employed by their competitors. For everyone else it's just keeping prices down.

Don't get drawn in by government and left-wing propaganda. It's not like the government would make better use of those funds. Leave them out in the wider economy where they can be better utilised instead of squandered on poorly thought out and badly budgeted government idiocy.

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