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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 17-Jul-15 17:31:13
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BT TV Ultra HD - Inaccurate Wholesale Speed Checker


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Evening,

So after weeks of suspense, BT has launched the Ultra HD TV product.

T&C's are you need a 44mb Line. My line syncs no lower than 47mb.

Unfortunately, it seems the sales process references the BT Wholesale Checker which reports a figure of 42.9mb Clean, therefore they won't sell me the product.

I've reported this on the BT Community forum, and it seems other people are having the same problem.

Anybody got any ideas on how maybe to get the Wholesale Checker speeds aligned with the real profile speed?

Cheers
Matt

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 17-Jul-15 17:39:08
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In reply to a post by mabibby:
So after weeks of suspense, BT is onboarding for the Ultra HD product.
No idea what to do about the problem, why an estimate ever gets regarded as a fact is beyond me, but what does the quotation mean? It certainly isn't English.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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(deleted) Fri 17-Jul-15 17:42:26
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Reviewed and amended. Happy?


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 17-Jul-15 17:47:00
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LOL, and thanks.

I genuinely didn't know what it meant.

Edit - and "launched" seems a much better way of putting it than "onboarding for" tongue wink.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync 57676/14040kbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 17-Jul-15 17:54:15
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Ha! It's a corporate buzz word for managing the acquisition process of a customer into a specific product.....

I should refrain from using work terminology frown

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 17-Jul-15 18:23:42
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[chuckle]

Ermmmm.

What is the job title of a person carrying out this process? Hehe!

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync 57676/14040kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 17-Jul-15 18:33:09
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Ha! We can't joke... Customer On-boarding Executives are instrumental wink
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 17-Jul-15 18:35:29
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I see you've also moved house and changed ISP during this thread.

Anyway - enough. Good luck with getting this sorted out.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync 57676/14040kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Fri 17-Jul-15 19:08:23
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what does the
http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/
say?
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Fri 17-Jul-15 19:31:59
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
No idea what to do about the problem, why an estimate ever gets regarded as a fact is beyond me


So to sum it up, first ISP's use the lower part of the estimate (clean range) as some how being relivent during the order process even when you already have an active FTTC service and syncing at the full/max rate , they often will also use this as a get out should your sync drop unless it drops lower than this estimate, which is totally unfair, if the estimate has been proved to be inaccurate,
So they(BT) use this as a cop out to their advantage, and now are using the same nonsense to prevent them selves selling their tv products ,lol how dumb BT

and why someone would need so much bandwidth to watch 4k tv i do not know

Edited by tommy45 (Fri 17-Jul-15 19:34:52)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 17-Jul-15 19:59:48
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and why someone would need so much bandwidth to watch 4k tv i do not know


You don't need it for the telly, it'll be for the adverts so you get to see that annoying fake muppet in glorious 4k HD colour.

But as we're both with Plumnet, it won't bother us.
Standard User PaulKirby
(experienced) Fri 17-Jul-15 21:22:16
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In reply to a post by ggremlin:
what does the
http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/
say?
Yeah I was about to say run the following tests:
http://diagnostics.bt.com/login/?workflow=Speed
http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/

And then say to BT to check their sodding logs and say see I have the bandwidth.

Its like their DSL Checker says we can get up to 4.5Mbps and we are currently getting 5.6Mbit and that's our download speed and not sync speed.
In fact their speedchecker has us down with a download speed of 5.86Mbps and has given us a profile of 5.72Mbps, so why BT go by their info I don't know.

Paul
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44Mbps?!?

YouTube only needs 20?
Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 18-Jul-15 11:44:58
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I'm assuming the reason for the speed is so there is still enough bandwidth for other tasks.

WBC @ 4500m > TP-Link TD-W8968v3 *Ceasing Soon
FTTC @ 450m > HG612 > Asus RT-AC87U *Migrating Soon BQM
FTTN Coming Soon
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sat 18-Jul-15 13:47:47
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Other tasks? Ithought broadband had become a platform for TV /media broadcasts and the internet taken over by them and their trolls?
Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 18-Jul-15 13:51:28
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Errrm OK :L

WBC @ 4500m > TP-Link TD-W8968v3 *Ceasing Soon
FTTC @ 450m > HG612 > Asus RT-AC87U *Migrating Soon BQM
FTTN Coming Soon
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sat 18-Jul-15 13:55:26
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Errrm OK :L
Well they would do that if they could, use the internet solely for tv /media /films ect ,
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