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(deleted) Tue 18-Aug-15 11:17:40
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Where are you in Cheshire? I can't think of anywhere in Cheshire where Virgin supply "villages"
Standard User kingbiscit
(member) Tue 18-Aug-15 11:29:56
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In reply to a post by Icaras:
Where are you in Cheshire? I can't think of anywhere in Cheshire where Virgin supply "villages"


Winwick, Warrington. We are literally surrounded by Virgin.
Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 18-Aug-15 11:34:28
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They know I'm not going anywhere and I cost them very little as even if I had my 2Mbps line downloading every day of the week at maximum capacity it still wouldn't download a lot.
Actually a 2Mb/s line running flat out 24/7 would consume nigh-on 1GB an hour or 24GB a day.

I have a 67Mb/s connection and my average is around 30GB a month. So actually you'd far, far, far outstrip me in terms of cost to your provider.

Something needs to be introduced to incentivise openreach to upgrade cabs like mine.
They have. It's called BDUK. Unfortunately no-one has infinitely deep pockets. For whatever reason it seems like the cost to upgrade your connection is just too high for BT even when your council sweetens the deal.

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Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 18-Aug-15 11:35:24
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Winwick, Warrington. We are literally surrounded by Virgin.
So have you contacted Virgin to see why they don't cover you?

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(staff) Tue 18-Aug-15 11:39:24
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And VM is expanding its network from 48% to around two thirds of the UK so might be able to influence them to arrive

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 18-Aug-15 11:46:42
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An additional consideration is that lines getting 2Mb/s are most likely long lines. The longer the line the more likely it is going to fail and the more expensive it is to find a fault. The argument can be made that long lines are actually more expensive and therefore on a pure cost level would be more expensive to support.

Someone on a brand new FTTP connection to their local DP is likely for the foreseeable future to be much cheaper to support.

Finally, if charging by speed then you would also have to offer the slower speed packages to the properties that could get better speeds - otherwise why should people that just happen to be able to get 40Mb/s but only want 2Mb/s pay a premium?

Trying to charge people at a detailed level on what it actually costs to provide their service would be a nightmare that would involve many complex calculations.
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(member) Tue 18-Aug-15 12:08:52
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It's not a cost issue. Connecting Cheshire made the estate the first phase as a priority. But openreach can do it in what order they want. So why do my estate with zero competition when other villages have Virgin.
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(member) Tue 18-Aug-15 12:12:18
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We have tried residents have filled in the form. Hopefully Virgin will come but by that point we will have Fttc. Just annoys me how connecting Cheshire in realty have zero control of the order in which openreach do the work.

Regarding cost in the last 12 months I have lost count of engineer visits. Speaking to openreach engineers they tell, me my estate must cost openreach a fortune on engineer call outs im lucky I get 2mbit most get less than 1mbit and it is incredibly flaky.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 18-Aug-15 12:46:29
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It's possible that Openreach are having to wait on 3rd parties for wayleaves, power distribution, etc. Even if they have prioritised it at the top it makes no sense not to progress other jobs whilst waiting for things to come into line.

I can't say for certain this is the case in your instance but without being in the room when these things are discussed there are many factors that can impact the order and speed of rollouts like this.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 18-Aug-15 13:06:26
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How far are you from the PCP cabinet?

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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