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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 03-Sep-15 13:36:28
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Re: Wiring + Stats question


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No it is a normal master socket, just the interstitial plate (the bit where the RJ11 lead plugs in) came area first in your case.

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/faceplate/ shows the way the small front half should come off.

But as others said it was enough to do what you did anyway.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 03-Sep-15 13:50:50
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No dial tone from any extension, so pretty sure there's nothing coming off the incoming pair before the test socket.

I managed to find a pic of my stats from back when I was getting 1.875Mps: http://i.imgur.com/hMisIJy.jpg

Guessing there's nothing more I can do then?

Sadly we've been left out of both BDUK and commercial FTTC rollout, despite our best efforts (www.cheltenham151.com)
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(deleted) Thu 03-Sep-15 13:52:17
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Ah, thanks for that. Mine felt pretty stuck together and didn't fancy pulling too hard on it!


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 03-Sep-15 14:02:23
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If you have one of those types of modem/routers where you can hack the target SNR margin you might squeeze another 0.5 mbps (at the possible expense of stability), but I rather think you are in the realms of requiring an uplift to the local BB infrastructure.,
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(deleted) Thu 03-Sep-15 15:45:52
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In reply to a post by TheEulerID:
The slightly higher connection speed had a lower noise margin.


This may be a silly question, but the original stats had a lower noise margin but lower speed. Does lower noise margin not always mean higher speed?

Original Noise Margin.......: 3.4 - 1.625 Mbps
Test Socket Noise Margin..: 6.3 - 1.656 Mbps
Back in normal socket......: 5.4 - 1.688 Mbps
Stats from a while ago.....: 4.2 - 1.875 Mbps
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 03-Sep-15 16:04:00
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Not always, the figures are very much a capture from a moment in time, so if there was a burst of noise when syncing you can have a low noise margin and lower speeds, when the noise goes away this may be reflected by you having a higher SNR figure.

On long lines like yours the signal is so weak that it may not take much variation in noise to cause a variation in connection speed. Even the choice of ADSL modem and firmware its running will have an effect.

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Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 03-Sep-15 16:05:59
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Until recently I had an ADSL connection on a very long line.. its attenuation on downstream was in about 62db and that could get 3-400kbps so I would certainly say something is up outside the property.

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 03-Sep-15 16:48:07
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I may have said it before.

Lower margin may mean higher headline or sync speed however it may also mean significantly more errors and thus a lower actual speed.


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Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 03-Sep-15 23:40:05
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further my previous post regarding the lack of speed on your line, I have dug up some old diagnostics data from my old ADSL1 connection, it follows!

Mode: ADSL_G.dmt
Traffic Type: ATM
Status: Up
Link Power State: L0

Downstream Upstream
Line Coding(Trellis): On On
SNR Margin (0.1 dB): 38 60
Attenuation (0.1 dB): 595 315
Output Power (0.1 dBm): 181 124
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 4,848 996

Path 0 Path 1
Downstream Upstream Downstream Upstream
Rate (Kbps): 4,320 832 0 0


K (number of bytes in DMT frame): 136 27 0 0
R (number of check bytes in RS code word): 4 8 0 0
S (RS code word size in DMT frame): 1.00 4.00 0.0 0.0
D (interleaver depth): 16 4 0 0
Delay (msec): 4.00 4.00 0.0 0.0
INP (DMT symbol): 0.23 0.11 0.0 0.0

Super Frames: 44,899 44,899 0 0
Super Frame Errors: 42 1 0 0
RS Words: 3,053,132 763,045 0 0
RS Correctable Errors: 20,125 1 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors: 276 0 0 0

HEC Errors: 92 0 0 0
OCD Errors: 0 0 0 0
LCD Errors: 0 0 0 0
Total Cells: 7,776,749 0 0 0
Data Cells: 283,832 0 0 0
Bit Errors: 0 0 0 0

Total ES: 20 0
Total SES: 0 0
Total UAS: 0 0


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(deleted) Wed 09-Sep-15 16:50:19
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Thanks for all the replies.

The connection has now, annoyingly, dropped to 1.5Mbps, not sure why as nothings changed.

Are there any recommended routers / modems that work better on longer lines / allow the hacking of the SNR Margin as mentioned?
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