Please recommend a non-ISP related email provider

It would be interesting to have your views on a good non-ISP related email provider.

Not for me personally, but for those who suffer with TalkTalk, BTInternet & similar providers who seems to be suffering more & more problems as time goes by.

I have my own domain, and email is forwarded to both FastMail & RunBox to provide an element of redundancy.

I would happily recommend either, but so many people only want a free service, and generally such a service is worth about what one pays for it.

I tend to recommend GMail, but warn potential users about data-mining.

Other ideas most welcome.

NJSS

See here. (Prices have gone up a bit - I must update it).

Thanks Bob.

If I may I will give my unbelieving friends that URL.

NJSS

https://unseen.is/

www.gmx.com

I was with BT for years and changed over to Fastmail after they kicked up their price and never looked back. Far superior service and dead easy to set up with powerful built in tool to migrate your mail from your old provider.

If you email Fastmail they will send you details to try an actual email test account for a quick look.

Hope that helps

www.1and1.co.uk

Used for nearly 15 years now, always spot on for me.

Google Apps for Work is nice and a lot of advanced features. Plus it's handy to integrate with other system if needed.
The service's privacy policy also states that the data is yours - https://support.google.com/work/answer/6056650?hl=en

Seconded and GMX is now hosted by 1&1

In reply to a post by flippery:

www.gmx.com

Or gmx.co.uk
and or gmx.net if you want non geografical email address and don't mind it is in German (you dont need to understand it, it's pretty obvious....)
Also mobile apps.
Have been using it for ~20 years...!
Regards,
Martin

I tend to follow your example and to use one that costs a little bit of money. I currently have my own domain name and it is parked with its own mailbox at Fasthosts. They had issues in the past, but are now nice and stable.

As you know the advantage of this is that you can change providers at will and keep the same email address and add or delete family email addresses as and when the family wishes.

I'm with derekdel on this. Exactly the same experience, left BT because of their trebled email pricing and have found Fastmail excellent. When I rang BT and told them to close the account they offered to continue at the old price ... bye bye BT after 40 years

I don't use a third party email provider as I run my own mail servers but I've looked at Fastmail and they seem to be very security conscious, which is both rare and a good thing.

As well as scoring highly on the SSL/TLS and web server security tests at High-Tech Bridge, they offer a good range of two factor authentication options including hardware U2F keys such as the Yubico one, which can be bought on Amazon, and the Duo authentication mobile phone app (free from Google Play and iTunes App stores).

The advantage of two factor authentication is that if you find yourself needing to access your email by webmail on an unfamiliar computer, at an internet caf� for example, and it turns out that the computer has malware and is logging key strokes, your email account still can't be compromised.

Sadly, Mike, it's a bit too late for you as you already seem to be infected with malware

Please note that SMS two factor authentication is no longer considered secure - see NIST declares the age of SMS-based 2-factor authentication over.

Edited by caffn8me (Mon 01-Aug-16 22:45:05)

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

www.1and1.co.uk

Used for nearly 15 years now, always spot on for me.

Yep, same here, no problem at all, sadly the email service I have got have been discontinued to new customers. but buy a domain for £6.99 and it comes with email. cheaper than what I am paying.

Been with them for about 13 years now

In reply to a post by flippery:

www.gmx.com

for a free one it is very good.

In reply to a post by caffn8me:

I don't use a third party email provider as I run my own mail servers but I've looked at Fastmail and they seem to be very security conscious, which is both rare and a good thing.

Is that not a pain? I did it a few years back, but too much hassle.

As well as scoring highly on the SSL/TLS and web server security tests at High-Tech Bridge, they offer a good range of two factor authentication options including hardware U2F keys such as the Yubico one, which can be bought on Amazon, and the Duo authentication mobile phone app (free from Google Play and iTunes App stores).

The advantage of two factor authentication is that if you find yourself needing to access your email by webmail on an unfamiliar computer, at an internet caf� for example, and it turns out that the computer has malware and is logging key strokes, your email account still can't be compromised.

Sadly, Mike, it's a bit too late for you as you already seem to be infected with malware

LOL,

Please note that SMS two factor authentication is no longer considered secure - see NIST declares the age of SMS-based 2-factor authentication over.

Can someone tell vodafone that then, because i am really getting peed off mucking around to access my account on their web site.

Gmail, I don't worry about data mining.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Yep, same here, no problem at all, sadly the email service I have got have been discontinued to new customers. but buy a domain for £6.99 and it comes with email. cheaper than what I am paying.

Yeah, the older cheaper price for 5 mailboxes was good, but the £1.99+vat for 20 mailboxes is still decent value IMO. An added bonus is that 1and1 are now supporting spf records for mail sent from their servers; they were quite late to the spf party:

v=spf1 include:_spf.perfora.net include:_spf.kundenserver.de -all

Nobody (in a domestic situation) needs 20 mailboxes. Even 10 is huge.

My £22.18pa gives me a domain, hosting space for two domains/sites (the second domain is £7.19pa), and 10 mailboxes. £1.99pm + Vat is £28.66pa.

Edited by RobertoS (Wed 10-Aug-16 13:39:39)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Nobody (in a domestic situation) needs 20 mailboxes. Even 10 is huge.

True, but their other option is 0.99p per month for only one, which may not be enough. But if it is, as already pointed out, they throw one mailbox in for free when you buy a domain from them.

Having used both Tsohost and 1&1, my personal preference is 1&1, although Tsohost's £14.99 package is hard to beat on price.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

Having used both Tsohost and 1&1, my personal preference is 1&1, although Tsohost's £14.99 package is hard to beat on price.

That's interesting .

I assume you moved from Tsohost to 1 & 1. Why, and in what way have 1 & 1 proved better?

Yup, 1and1.co.uk for 7 years now and it has been superb. Their spam and malware detection are 100% , never yet had anything bad get to my mail box.

I use mail.com (web mail) as a back up and for forums/site registrations. Can create as many free accounts as you wish and any spammers/idiots can be blocked or the account deleted and use another one.

( mail.com and gmx.com are part of 1and1 , the high standard of service is the same across the 3 domains. )

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I assume you moved from Tsohost to 1 & 1. Why, and in what way have 1 & 1 proved better?

I did move in that direction, yes.

The reasons, well no huge ones, but there are a few areas where I feel 1&1's configuration is more consistent and less quirky than Tsohost.

That said, I won't go into specifics since that could spark a long debate, and I tend to be more picky than most when it comes to hosting providers anyway, given I used to host myself on a VPS for a long time where I could have things exactly how I wanted it, even to the extent of running my own BIND server for my DNS.

Edited by Oliver341 (Wed 10-Aug-16 14:42:07)

Hushmail or for end to end encryption tutanota.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

Yeah, the older cheaper price for 5 mailboxes was good, but the £1.99+vat for 20 mailboxes is still decent value IMO. An added bonus is that 1and1 are now supporting spf records for mail sent from their servers; they were quite late to the spf party:

v=spf1 include:_spf.perfora.net include:_spf.kundenserver.de -all

That is ok if you need it, I do not require it, i just wanted an email adress that did not change every-time I changed my ISP, I did have a hotmail account at the time, but wanted something better that did not have so much spam. That is why I decided to try 1 and 1. Gmail was not really a big thing at the time and to be honest i did not want a free one where they scan your email to chuck adverts at me.
also with one and one I can may different aliases for different companies
so like i could have say Mybank@my domain.co.uk as well as my normal one.

Aliases on a mailbox are normal. Some providers give you a fixed number. Some are unlimited, like mine.