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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Oct-16 10:42:11
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Netgear DG834PN Rangemax


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I'm with a punter at the moment,

the grey matter ain't what it used to be, does the router in the title ONLY do ADSL .. I suspect it may.

Answers on a post card please.

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(deleted) Thu 13-Oct-16 10:44:24
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Yes, not VDSL
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Oct-16 10:45:48
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Yes BB, thank you.


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 13-Oct-16 13:07:52
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Re: Netgear DG834PN Rangemax


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And ADSL2/2+.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Oct-16 17:52:51
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So it does, or doesn't do 2/2+ ?

I could find nothing useful on the box or in the router web interface.

The customer was on a very long line, 66db attenuation, and it was only receiving G.DMT, but I reckon she could have squeezed a little more with 2+ and a somewhat newer router.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 13-Oct-16 17:57:43
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It will do ADSL or ADSL2+ but NOT VDSL2+

Which provider, as some may have locked the profile to be ADSL only (thinking of people like Post Office where very rare to see any user with an ADSL2+ type speed)

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 13-Oct-16 18:09:09
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Whoa!!!!!

I'll swear it does, but it isn't mentioned in any product specs!

Does. I had one. The blue flashing light is a PITA but can be turned off.

Second edit - the online documentation is garbage. The support for it has a link to how to set it up for VDSL2, which we know it cannot do, and the page that link goes to (VDSL2 set up) says it applies a whole string of 834s. Rot!

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 13-Oct-16 18:22:35)

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Oct-16 19:05:10
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The blue flashing light is a PITA but can be turned off.

Bizarrely that bit I DID remember.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Oct-16 19:05:55
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The punter was on Plusnet ......

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 13-Oct-16 19:28:28
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Re: Netgear DG834PN Rangemax


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PlusNet does sometimes do odd things, how sure are you that its not an old IPStream Max connection?

And user double checked that ADSL mode is not forced, but modem left to do multi-mode.

It may also be very old firmware, some Netgears while spec said ADSL needed firmware updates to work on a wide range of DSLAM.

Edited by MrSaffron (Thu 13-Oct-16 19:29:40)

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Oct-16 20:02:28
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And user double checked that ADSL mode is not forced, but modem left to do multi-mode.

My JDSU will attempt to negotiate 2+, then 2 and finally ADSL, it used G.DMT every time.
how sure are you that its not an old IPStream Max connection?

The upstream was over 500kbps

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 13-Oct-16 20:22:12
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ADSL Max "Premium" is upstream "up to" 832kbps.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 13-Oct-16 21:04:00
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Yes Bob, do PN offer that as a product ?

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 13-Oct-16 21:13:07
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Not on Home. Yes on Business, by default.
Prioritised Service

Lines on older 20CN/ADSL1 exchange equipment benefit from an increase in upload speed from 448kbps to up to 832kbps. Traffic is also prioritised to minimise the potential for congestion within the BT Wholesale network.
Link. Note that prices do not include Vat.

And a modem/router available for P & P.

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 13-Oct-16 21:13:48)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-Oct-16 15:11:46
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The DG834PN is a ADSL2+ modem router, just like the old trusty DG834GT you used to have.

Netgear have never claimed it does VDSL - see http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/DG834PN/D... . You must be looking at the wrong docs/links. No 834 has ever done VDSL.

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Edited by XRaySpeX (Fri 14-Oct-16 15:19:25)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 15-Oct-16 02:29:14
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LOL.

I'm looking in the right place, Netgear product documentation on the Netgear site. Documentation that has clearly been lazily and wrongly updated.

I can't check with my 834PN, which is what I said earlier I had, as I gave it to a friend. A couple of years later, it died.

Before I made that post I found the page you link to. I intended to link to is as proof. But I was disturbed to see it did not list ADSL2+ or G.992.5. Scroll to the bottom of the page.

So I dug deeper.

Try Appendix A of this page. That got me more "head-scratching".

I did say:-
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Second edit - the online documentation is garbage. The support for it has a link to how to set it up for VDSL2, which we know it cannot do, and the page that link goes to (VDSL2 set up) says it applies a whole string of 834s. Rot!
Here and now, at 2:24am, I can't find the link in the 834PN documentation that I referred to, but this is the page it went to. Click the down-arrow on the right against "This article applies to".

Garbage. No mention of ADSL2+/G.992.5 in the main product sheet or reference manual, and that!

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 15-Oct-16 04:12:13
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LOL2!

Yes, neither Data Sheet's or Manual's Spec includes ADSL2+ but at least it's scattered all over the Data Sheet's description.

I have also recently noticed this on eBay where I just sold an old DG834GT (I have a surfeit of ADSL2+ routers smile). The eBay-supplied pre-digested Spec (presumed got from Netgear) to go with the ad had no mention of any ADSL2, so I had to emphasise it in my own description.

Interestingly the DG834GT Data Sheet does not even mention ADSL2+ at all, unlike the DG834PN. I think it is quite likely that this, or even both, routers when they 1st came out only did G.DMT and the Specs & Manuals were written accordingly. Then both routers were upgraded by firmware releases to include ADSL2 & ADSL2+ but the Specs & Manuals were never updated.

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