Info on Warrington - Winwick Park

Hello

Hoping someone might have some info on this. I live on Winwick Park in Warrington (WA2), its got a bit of a weird setup even though its not a huge estate it has 4 separate phone cabs. When it was first built it trialled a new tech not using copper, but was converted to copper to make ADSL work.

3 of these cabs were upgraded to FTTC 18 months ago including mine cab 210. But one was deemed to small to be upgraded at the time.

Openreach have been busy on the estate recently and when quizzed by a neighbour they said they were putting FTTP into the entire estate and it should be ready in the next 4 weeks.

I noticed FTTP on demand has suddenly become available, will they mean this or could they mean the more available FTTP? Surely they wouldn't have both FTTP and FTTC available?

Edited by kingbiscit (Fri 12-May-17 14:37:34)

Mixed FTTP and FTTC does occur in a few places, with users able to order either. Odd though that is.

FTTP on Demand (FTTPoD) is not what they mean. At least not its current incarnation. That currently has a minimum installation cost of £1100 from Openreach, with the ISPs almost certainly charging is more, and similarly a line rental of £99 per month for a minimum period of three years. After which it drops to normal FTTP rental process.

That too increased by ISPs who of course have to provide and support the considerable backhaul capacity needed, and all the above plus Vat by the time it gets to us.

Thanks for replying.

The resisdents on the final cab that hasn't been upgraded have been campaigning and Openreach have so far seem pretty reluctant to install an FTTC cab down to the low numbers. The local MP was recently in the press pushing for compensation (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/04/warrington-mp-demands-246k-compensation-slow-residential-broadband.html
).I do wonder if Openreach have decided FTTP for the estate is actually simpler.

It always seemed odd to me they didn't go FTTP route rather than having to install 4 FTTC cabs.

Edited by kingbiscit (Fri 12-May-17 14:04:45)

Only those on 122 are planned to get FTTP

Interesting.

Whole setup has been madness, why wouldn't they have just done the whole estate like that?

Cost. You might think 3 cabinets would be expensive but compared to the potential of running new cable in to every home it is much cheaper in the majority of cases.

https://www.homeandwork.openreach.co.uk/when-can-i-g... and an example postcode WA2 8XL

And the FTTP part is hardly a secret since it says in the plans for FTTP

The estate has ducts all the way round it though, so no digging required. They have had to run fibre past pretty much every house for the 3 FTTC cabs.

And?

Its in the plan for FTTP on at least some locations...so is the complaint about the timescale for delivery of FTTP?

The fibre may pass homes, but for GPON you will build out from the aggregation node, ignoring the actual cabinets.

I'm not complaining.

I just find it odd that a single modern estate with ducts , probably 150 or so houses have FTTC via 3 separate cabs, then 20-30 houses have FTTP.

Seems a real mess.