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Standard User IanBB
(committed) Sun 11-Nov-18 18:38:57
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Single thread download speed is on the low side!


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Something very strange going on...

My Broadband Speed Test

the x6 & upload are roughly as expected as another tester shows

http://www.speedtest.net/result/7791349034
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 11-Nov-18 19:39:52
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Looks too stable to be congestion and looks more like something is throttling or capping speed

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 11-Nov-18 22:12:49
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But 6 x 12 only = 72.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 12-Nov-18 10:15:43
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Re: Single thread download speed is on the low side!


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8 more likely

Likely whatever is limiting sees the multiple requests and lets you have a bit more

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 12-Nov-18 10:28:43
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But you provide 6 streams. 201.8 / 6 = 33.6Mbps per stream. Which is still unacceptable.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 12-Nov-18 12:00:16
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Re: Single thread download speed is on the low side!


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Have you looked at how many streams the tester actually uses?

Should be 8 in most cases now.

As for acceptable - have never said the result the user was seeing was acceptable.

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 12-Nov-18 12:49:17
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So the text is now out of date on the results as it says HTTP x6?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 12-Nov-18 13:21:22
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In reply to a post by ian72:
So the text is now out of date on the results as it says HTTP x6?
It would appear so. That was what I was working from frown.

In fact that makes it worse, as 201.8 /8 = 25.2Mbps per stream.

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Edited by RobertoS (Mon 12-Nov-18 13:23:31)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 12-Nov-18 14:17:38
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Makes what worse exactly?

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 12-Nov-18 14:25:10
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The throughput the ISP is providing on a single thread on that 200Mbps (at least) connection.

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Standard User IanBB
(committed) Mon 12-Nov-18 15:18:09
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Hmmm...

My Broadband Speed Test
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(staff) Mon 12-Nov-18 15:53:13
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Changed anything your end?

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 12-Nov-18 16:00:50
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I wonder if the Manchester City v United match yesterday evening had anything to do with it?

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Standard User IanBB
(committed) Mon 12-Nov-18 17:36:37
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I had upgraded my router to the latest firmware but RobertoS has spotted the obvious issue in that the x1 &x6 bear no resemblance.

Reminds me of this thread on the Plusnet forum (my 1st comments are on page 2.)

Edited by IanBB (Mon 12-Nov-18 17:42:37)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 12-Nov-18 17:52:05
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So if things stay good at peak time suggests router firmware was limiting you for some reason.

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Standard User IanBB
(committed) Mon 12-Nov-18 22:07:11
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I didn't expect this

My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 13-Nov-18 19:03:17
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But you provide 6 streams. 201.8 / 6 = 33.6Mbps per stream. Which is still unacceptable.

In fact that makes it worse, as 201.8 /8 = 25.2Mbps per stream.


Doesn't that make it better rather than worse, because 25.2 is closer to the 12.3 quoted than 33.6?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 13-Nov-18 23:32:19
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No. Because 25.2Mbps throughput is further from the 200Mbps sync than is 33.6Mbps.

Bear in mind what MrSaffron says, and he has the figures to back it up, that when presented with multiple demanding streams for the same line the ISP (or Daisy Wholesale in this case) might step up the "per stream" throughput allowed.

The single stream 12.3Mbps is exactly what it says. In my opinion probably representing a single-stream limit of 15Mbps or 20Mbps.

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Edited by RobertoS (Tue 13-Nov-18 23:36:31)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 14-Nov-18 10:10:23
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And remember they changed firmware on their router and things have improved.

"The single stream 12.3Mbps is exactly what it says. In my opinion probably representing a single-stream limit of 15Mbps or 20Mbps."

If there is something limiting to 15 or 20 Mbps, then I would expect the throughput to be a lot closer to the 15 or 20 Mbps.

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 14-Nov-18 11:41:59
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And remember they changed firmware on their router and things have improved.
And then went back down to the low levels that same evening so it appears it was coincidence the speeds increased for a half a day.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 14-Nov-18 12:18:54
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Andrew, you seem to be thinking we are querying the tbb speedtester. Nearly all your posts seem to be defending it.

For my part, I in no way question the validity of the tests the OP has submitted. I believe the issue, whatever it is, is somewhere between and including his computer network card, Daisy and the peering arrangements the other side of Daisy. If tbb have direct peering with Daisy then I would say it does not lie at the tbb end.

There is also the question of what throughput arrangements the OP's ISP has with Daisy Wholesale. I don't know which ISP it is.

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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. 200GB. Sync 01/10/18 - 72382/13812Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 14-Nov-18 12:57:31
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Was just making that very clear, as posts could be interpreted in two ways.

NOTE: If this was a peering issue you would almost certainly NOT see the flat nature of the single thread over the 8 seconds of testing.

Flat lines that are not at maximum speeds point towards something limiting things.

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Standard User IanBB
(committed) Wed 13-Feb-19 19:42:50
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They are indeed throttling due to me being a 'very heavy data user on average about 1TB (1000GB)
per month'
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 13-Feb-19 20:23:12
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It seems they might be letting you go when they are on lighter loads though. Just clobber you when they have higher demand, perhaps on the basis that you can't need it all the time? The multi-thread seems to be adequate for most purposes even when they are holding you back.

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Standard User IanBB
(committed) Wed 13-Feb-19 20:35:23
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The clobbering can be brutal though, rendering iPlayer unwatchable at times.

It's quite rare that I use iPlayer but I was looking forward to watching a one-off documentary on BBC Alba and was spitting feathers when it was constantly buffering :mad:

Also, being a Windows Insider it can turn what is usually a 10 minute download & update to well over an hour.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 13-Feb-19 20:36:44
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Does iPlayer single-stream then? That hadn't occurred to me.

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Standard User IanBB
(committed) Wed 13-Feb-19 20:53:20
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This would seem to indicate it does.
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