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Standard User q4719049
(newbie) Tue 12-Mar-19 12:35:42
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Re: EE vs BT Broadband infrastructure


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Ok, thanks for your help
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 12-Mar-19 12:53:00
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I've had IPs from EE's pool for years, musta been 1000s of them, & never found 1 blacklisted. Can't see the likelihood of this being any diff from any other ISP. It's the users not the ISP that triggers blacklisting.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

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Standard User q4719049
(newbie) Tue 12-Mar-19 13:07:28
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Great,
It looks to be the case but I just wanted to make sure, are the IP pools for EE's mobile and Broadband users different?
Are the IPs all named as EE and not the old IPs names/owners which were owned by Orange and the other companies that merged to become EE?
Have you had any issue with geolocation for services such as iplayer and Netflix that require geographic IP locations?


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 12-Mar-19 13:23:30
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Many EE IP pools are registered under "Orange" as that's where EE acquired BB, but what diff does it make? You don't see it.

You may find even running on Fibre that you are given an IP registered under "ADSL2+" or even "IP Stream", due to running out of IPs. The mobile & fixed IPs are kept separate but I suppose even those could eventually merge in the same way.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User q4719049
(newbie) Tue 12-Mar-19 13:27:28
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I probably wasn't thinking very logically as maybe this wouldn't happen, but I was thinking if EE hadn't bothered to update the name of the owner of the IP and they then bought more IPs, they might have still not bothered to update them from the ISP they bought them from.
And then causing the location of the IP to remain where they were bought, causing iplayer to refuse to play because it would think I was in that country and not the UK due to licensing rights
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 12-Mar-19 13:59:16
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You weren't! EE didn't buy IPs from Orange. Orange UK (nowt to do with any overseas Oranges) is a constituent part of EE & remains so today. Anyway they're all registered in UK. I've never had any issues watching iPlayer over EE BB.

Sorry, but you are just dreaming up remote eventualities that cannot be tested. I shall no further address them.

Do what everybody else does. Choose an ISP based on what they offer & join them. You won't know how it is until you use it.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

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Standard User q4719049
(newbie) Tue 12-Mar-19 14:07:25
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Ah, thanks for the clarification
It was a while ago, but one of my friends had a similar issue and I think they said they were on EE, so thats why I was a bit concerned
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 12-Mar-19 14:30:52
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Yeah, someone, somewhere once said they had an issue with their ISP! This site is full of them & could well not exist w/out them.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 12-Mar-19 18:54:32
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In reply to a post by q4719049:
I probably wasn't thinking very logically as maybe this wouldn't happen, but I was thinking if EE hadn't bothered to update the name of the owner of the IP and they then bought more IPs, they might have still not bothered to update them from the ISP they bought them from.

The RIPE entry for "owner name" does not affect the "location" used by organisations such as BBC for iPlayer control. (The BBC run their own lists).

The mobile network side of EE is much larger and does not provide an individual IPv4 to end users, they use CGNAT, however if you use compatible hardware, EE can assign you IPv6 instead.

IPv4 has run out, ISPs cannot "buy" any more, they can only trade between each other. The future is IPv6.

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