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Standard User dect
(committed) Wed 10-Jul-19 15:23:09
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Re: How to request a new broadband cabinet?


[re: jabuzzard] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jabuzzard:
Except Otford is the sort of rural that some civil servant in Whitehall who has probably never left London things is rural, and where they actually to go to somewhere that was rural would have a heart attack from the shock. It's a 20 minute walk and that's being generous as it is less than a mile from Otford to a large Sainsburys on the outskirts of Sevenoaks. That is not remotely rural and the idea that it should qualify from government subsidy because it is rural is frankly an outrage to people who like in actual rural areas.
Sounds a really nice place with the best of both worlds, given the choice I would choose it over Glasgow.

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Standard User witchunt
(experienced) Wed 10-Jul-19 20:46:56
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[re: doorsandcorners] [link to this post]
 
I'm guessing your somewhere in the Redlands Road, Cockerhurst Road or Shacklands Road area. The properties around there are too sparse to make a cabinet viable even with co-funding. Only viable option would be FTTP or wireless from Well Hill possibly. N.B. I think Well Hill has a couple of Callflow cabs.
I haven't tried 4G when passing through but doubt it's great out there
Standard User jabuzzard
(member) Thu 11-Jul-19 10:26:39
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[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
You are working under the faulty assumption that there is a binary choice between urban and rural, or that everything that is in the "countryside" is rural. It is distinctly not rural, the population density is way to high and it is less than a mile from a large supermarket.

So we could say for example that it is suburban. That would be a far better description than rural.

I would note that if this is rural then you could claim Arthur's Seat is rural, except that is in the middle of Edinburgh!!!


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Standard User witchunt
(experienced) Thu 11-Jul-19 10:32:57
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The village itself is urban but the exchange area does cover a significant rural area which I suspect is where the OP is located. No easy walk to a shop let alone a supermarket
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 11-Jul-19 11:39:03
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[re: jabuzzard] [link to this post]
 
We use the ONS definitions which are resolved down to the postcode level and in this case picking random postcode on High Street it comes up as a Hamlet

With rural and urban definitions they can be argued forever, hence why its normal to work to the ONS set to make comparisons with other datasets easier. If the consensus is that the ONS has it all seriously wrong and needs to re-do its classifications then that needs lobbying for.

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Standard User Swac3
(newbie) Thu 11-Jul-19 19:22:51
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[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
The bad joke in all of this is that the allocation of the title rural or urban, doesn't necessarily impact on the costs of any solution be that FTTC or FTTP.


94% of Scotland is classed as rural depending on which of the area breakdowns you use, But that doesn't mean that a small rural town with 2000 properties are magically more expensive to do than a 2000 home urban area right in the centre of a large town.


The terms are thrown around as and when they fit the agenda by Gov and providers alike. When it really doesnt matter which you are its all down to the costs of deployment.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 12-Jul-19 00:05:35
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[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Cab 8 is near Shoreham Station not Otford Station where the exchange is nearer.

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Standard User Gadget
(committed) Fri 12-Jul-19 09:58:49
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"But that doesn't mean that a small rural town with 2000 properties are magically more expensive to do than a 2000 home urban area right in the centre of a large town.
"

Actually it can easily - even assuming the population density for the 2000 is the same which would give comparable network to house costs there is still the matter of the backhaul which would tend to be more expensive for a "rural" 2000 than an urban one. This has little to do with anyone's agenda and more to do with the cost of making the deployment work.
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(staff) Fri 12-Jul-19 11:00:12
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All boils to the planning and specifics of each area e.g. distance to handover or existing infrastructure that will be part used.

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(staff) Fri 12-Jul-19 11:03:14
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[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Yes Shoreham station to make it clear I do have cab 8 located at right place

Cab 2 is the one near Otford station

Fixed auto correct typo

Edited by MrSaffron (Fri 12-Jul-19 12:51:04)

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