INDIAN SCAM CALL CENTRE IS SCAMMED!

TBB had a thread on the 'Microsoft' scammers a few weeks back. Now a brilliant hacker has broken into an Indian call centre and captured its own CCTV images, showing an industrial operation in full swing with victims all over the world. He's given the videos to the BBC which will be running it on BBC-1 tonight -- or available online.

Fixed the heading for you.

And here's the trailer .

I love calling these people on the 0800 numbers just to waste their time

It's a sad world we live in. I can almost imagine more effort being put in by the authorities to track Jim wotsisname down and bring him to book than is expended on stopping the scammers.

In reply to a post by longedge:

the authorities

Our authorities, yes. We have no jurisdiction over the crimes committed in India.

Thanks Bob!

I always have mixed emotions when thinking of India as the scamming capital of the world. Having worked in India I always found the people to be hard working and very family focussed and honest but the truth is the chances of being scammed over the phone by someone from India is probably greater than from any other country which is a sad story.

In reply to a post by Malwaremike:

TBB had a thread on the 'Microsoft' scammers a few weeks back. Now a brilliant hacker has broken into an Indian call centre and captured its own CCTV images, showing an industrial operation in full swing with victims all over the world. He's given the videos to the BBC which will be running it on BBC-1 tonight -- or available online.

I watch Jim's videos , and some of the other scam baiters who turn the tables on these parasites or at least waste their time , they prey on the old and vulnerable no one should feel sorry for these criminals

Thanks for the heads up on this programme, was well worth watching.

Call centre owner has been arrested:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51740214

One down a few hundred to go.

In reply to a post by MHC:

Call centre owner has been arrested:

Typical, they have been shamed into doing something. I suspect the authorities over there turn a blind eye as it keeps people off the streets.

Here are the two videos which Panorama based their report.

Tim Browning scamming the scammers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le71yVPh4uk

Karl Rock recon in India https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFwt-_svg_0

I think more attention also needs to be given as to how easy it is for scammers to obtain UK phone numbers.

Absolutely, where do they get the UK numbers from and who is providing them, as there must be a link to their activities in the UK.

Edited by deleted (Wed 04-Mar-20 23:03:45)

In reply to a post by scopio:

Absolutely, where do they get the UK numbers from and who is providing them, as there must be a link to their activities in the UK.

They don't need to "get" any numbers. They use VOIP and enter whatever Caller ID they wish to display as part of the set up. To quote Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing),

"Some VoIP providers allow the user to configure their displayed number as part of the configuration page on the provider's web interface."

For providers that do not allow that facility, there is open source software available to do the same.

In reply to a post by GonePostal:

In reply to a post by scopio:

Absolutely, where do they get the UK numbers from and who is providing them, as there must be a link to their activities in the UK.

They don't need to "get" any numbers. They use VOIP and enter whatever Caller ID they wish to display as part of the set up. To quote Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing),

"Some VoIP providers allow the user to configure their displayed number as part of the configuration page on the provider's web interface."

For providers that do not allow that facility, there is open source software available to do the same.

Some of them have offices in the uk

There will be plenty of legitimately purchased telephone directory CDs on the black market. Probably the full UK set already accessible online.

In reply to a post by GonePostal:

They don't need to "get" any numbers. They use VOIP and enter whatever Caller ID they wish to display as part of the set up. To quote Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing),

I was referring to the scams which pop-up a deceptive message on the victims' screens scaring them into calling a UK number. Those numbers will obviously need to be obtained from somewhere.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

I was referring to the scams which pop-up a deceptive message on the victims' screens scaring them into calling a UK number. Those numbers will obviously need to be obtained from somewhere.

But that has nothing to do with the phone number. That is something placed on their computer. While either visiting a website or from a email.

Personally at the moment. I'm getting sick of the "Someone has spent £600 overseas" press one to talk. Thankfully never answer the home phone, it just all voicemail.

But if the numbers those adverts give to ring are UK numbers then they are renting them from somewhere.

In reply to a post by JohnR:

But that has nothing to do with the phone number.

What good are those pop-ups without a phone number? Someone is supplying these scammers with phone numbers and is probably making a nice lot of money out of it. It seems like an obvious way to trace inbound call scammers.

Sadly the recordings cannot be used in courts (I know you cant over here) due to it was illegally obtained.

But glad stuff is being done, we have had several of these calls in the past, my father not being tech savvy and security aware almost fell for it.

Luckily I was walking by when I heard the phone call, I asked who it was and my father said BT, so I grabbed the phone and spoke to them and they said that (blah blah blah IP Address blah blah) I told them where to go and hung up.

See BT have been instructed to never phone the land line and to contact me on my mobile.
So I have told any phone calls stating they are BT to tell them to call the FPOC (First Point of Contact) and then hang up.

I did ask my father if they asked him to install stuff, he said no, but I redid his PC anyhow.

Paul

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

In reply to a post by JohnR:

But that has nothing to do with the phone number.

What good are those pop-ups without a phone number? Someone is supplying these scammers with phone numbers and is probably making a nice lot of money out of it. It seems like an obvious way to trace inbound call scammers.

Its probably a call forwarding service somebody over here is running.

I say the Police should acquire the addresses for those using those numbers and raid the buildings.

Paul

This was a gret thing to watch